Portable Power Packs - LifePo4 Battery Boxes -- How I done It --

[Dellmassive]

SOLAR GENERATOR -- How I done It --

OFF The back of these two threads i thought i was time do a dedicated thread.

Awesome 3-in-1 Battery Bank - How I done It -

Awesome 3-in-1 Battery Bank - How I done It - Now normally I don't post specific threads on kit . . . . . . but I had to this time. As some of you may know im into portable power . . . whether that be battery, solar, petrol genny, USB power banks or what ever i love it. The term Solar-Generator...

www.t6forum.com

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https://www.t6forum.com/threads/jackery-power-stations.27586/

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The Lithium battery technology is growing in leaps and bounds,

the large format battery's are getting cheaper every year and come with more and more advanced tech....

we can see the large format installed battery's over here:

Lithium LifePo4 12v Batteries - Time For An Upgrade?

Lithium Batteries are the future, (keep checking back for the latest news/edits) ************************************************** Dellmassive`s -- "how I Done It" -- Thread ************************************************** Kit List And Stuff -- How I Done It & What I Use --...

www.t6forum.com

and what can be done with them in regards to battery boxes here :

12v Lithium Leisure Battery Box 138Ah 1766Wh -- How I Done It --

12v Lithium Leisure Battery Box 138Ah 1766Wh -- How I Done It -- It's about time that I got this long-overdue project sorted out. The missing parts are on order and completion is in sight . . . . . . . . ready for the Post Pandemic 2020 Camping Trips (Hopefully) This is where it started. p1...

www.t6forum.com

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At the other end of the scale is the good old USB battery bank . . . which we all have and works great for charging our phones and tablets when mobile.



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The middle ground between these two techs is what we are looking at . . .

they have the the same lithium batteries inside,
they offer USB charging
12v outputs
240v outputs
and now other features like Bluetooth and WIFI coms
LED lights and even a set of jump leads for your car.

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I've had the ALLPOWERS 372wh for a good while now and am very happy with it : https://www.t6forum.com/threads/awesome-3-in-1-battery-bank-how-i-done-it.18674/

but in the background i have been keeping a very close eye on the other Kickstarter projects and companies that are producing this tech.

So in this thread ill be looking at the various options as they are released and look at the build and price points. . .


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One of the first to market was the Yeti by GoalZero.


lets take a look. . . . .

 

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i already have the 372wh ALLPOWERS . . . . so lets look at the new range.

this is one of my 372wh units . .




ALLPOWERS do the 372wh unit - https://www.t6forum.com/threads/awesome-3-in-1-battery-bank-how-i-done-it.18674/

they also now have a 666wh unit,

372wh @ £240 is £0.64 or 64p per Wh

666wh @ £509 is £0.76 or 76p per Wh



https://amzn.to/33FG6BT




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ALLPOWERS Portable Generator 666Wh/185200mAh Power Station Backup Emergency Power Supply Pure Sine wave with DC/AC Inverter,Charged by Solar Panel/Wall Outlet/Car for Camping, Home Use, RV, Outdoor​

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About this item​

• ❤Ship from UK local store，generally you will get it in 3-7 days！❤ ▶ 【666Wh/185200mAh Huge Capacity】: ALLPOWERS portable generator is possibly the smallest and lightest power station on the market. A high-density lithium-ion battery allows for a more compact build than that of lead-acid power packs. Works quietly without raising your voice or feeling disrupted, widely used for indoor or outdoor such as family, office, travel, camping, fishing, hunting, farm or the job sites.
• ▶【 5-in-1 Charging and 3-in-1 Recharging 】: Off-grid power station for camping or emergency backup, capable of powering lamp, phones, laptop, TV and even mini fridges( Not recommend to CPAP used). ALLPOWERS powerhourse boasts five output modes: a 12V cigarette lighter socket, two 12V/15A DC output, 3 fast-charging USB ports, one Type-C output and two AC sockets. Can be recharged by Solar Panel/ Wall Outlet/Car
• ▶ 【Bluetooth Connection】: Aipower App supports iOS 9.0 or above /Android 4.3 or above. Ultimate wireless stability, with Bluetooth technology that connects your devices in a wink. Start easily and reliably
• ▶【 Pure Sine Wave】: Operates even the most sensitive electronics, it’s better than modified sine wave, with Intelligent CPU control mode, key switch output, LED display, short circuit and surge protection
• ▶【 Safety Graranteed】: Battery Management System (BMS) undertakes voltage control, temperature control and more advanced safety operations, ensuring complete protection for you and your devices; and it hazes Zero emissions, therefore does no harm to personal health, nor to the nature

Specification:

Battery Capacity: 666Wh/185200mAh

Rated Power: 500W, Peak Power 1000W

Output Waveform: Pure Sine Wave

Protection Circuit: Short circuit, over current, over power, over charge, over-temperature, ect

Size: 26.3x14x18cm/10.4x5.5x7inch

Weight: 5.3kg/187.2oz

INPUT:

AC Input: AC 220v/50Hz 5.0A(it is suggest to recharge it with a PD adapter)

Solar Charger Input/Anderson Power Solar Input: 16.6V-24V/5.0A(Max.)

Car Charger: 12.7V-24V/ 5.0A(Attention: 12V/24V batteries are suitable for charging.This is not meant for vehicles that sit a lot without daily driving as batteries may easily drop below 12V,make sure your battery goes above 12.7V at least before charging.Use this charging method when driving.)

Output:

AC Output x 2: AC 220V/50Hz

USB Output x 3: 5V3A(Max.)

Type-C in(out): PD5-20V(60W/100W.)

DC Output: 12V/5A(Max.)

Cigaratte Output Port: 12-13.6V/10A(Max.)

Package Contents

1x ALLPOWERS Portable Generator Power Station

1x AC Wall Charger

1x User Manual




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there is a larger version in the pipeline too.

Smart Portable Power Station 1000W-Giant Power Station-ALLPOWERS​

UWBCMS6

Smart Portable Power Station 1000W-Giant Power Station-ALLPOWERS

UWBCMS6

allpowers.com

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Allpowers - Best Portable Power Station,Solar Panel & Solar Generator

Allpowers - Best Portable Power Station,Solar Panel & Solar Generator

allpowers.com

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they list this 288wh metal cased version . . . . . but we had a member report that it caught fire. . . . .we dont know they exact cause but would not not recommend this specific version. - just incase there was an unknown issue.




Remember - always follow Lithium safety guidelines:


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From my experience these are the IMPORTANT FACTS ABOUT LITHIUM batteries:

DO NOT OVER CHARGE THEM, (USE A CHARGER FIT FOR PURPOSE)

DO NOT RUN THEM 100% FLAT, (TRY TO RECHARGE BEFORE 10-20%)

STORE THEM AT 50% IF PUT INTO STORAGE FOR A TIME,

USE THE CORRECT CHARGER / METHOD, (LITHIUM PROFILE OR SUPPLIED CHARGER)

DO NOT SUBJECT THEM TO HIGH TEMPS (IN VAN/CAR/TENT/CAMPER ETC) (KEEP BELOW 30degC) **** MOST IMPORTANT ****

DO NOT SUBJECT THEM TO VERY LOW TEMPS/FREEZING (IN VAN/CAR/TENT/CAMPER ETC) (below 0degC)

DONT LET THEM GET WET (IE OUT IN THE RAIN) UNLESS THEY ARE IP RATED

STICK WITH A KNOWN BRAND NAMES,

REMEMBER YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR, SO CHEAP UNBRANDED IMPORTS MAY HAVE SUBSTANDARD PARTS THAT MAY HAVE FAILED QUALITY CONTROL WITH OTHER MANUFACTURERS.


STAY AWAY FROM LIPO CELLS. (older lithium tech)

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ALLPOWERS:

ALLPOWERS Monster X 2000W Portable Power Station, 1500Wh Power Generator, Portable Power Source with 11 Outlet, Solar Generator for Electric Vehicles Outdoor Travel Camping RV CPAP Home​

1500wh @ £2000 is £1.33 per wh

ALLPOWERS Monster X 2000W Portable Power Station, 1500Wh Power Generator, Portable Power Source with 11 Outlet, Solar Generator for Electric Vehicles Outdoor Travel Camping RV CPAP Home use Emergency : Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors

Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop ALLPOWERS Monster X 2000W Portable Power Station, 1500Wh Power Generator, Portable Power Source with 11 Outlet, Solar Generator for Electric Vehicles Outdoor Travel Camping RV CPAP Home use Emergency.

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JACKERY

Jackery Best Solar Generator, Portable Power Station & Solar Panels

Jackery® offers an array of portable power supply solutions, including solar generators, portable power stations & solar panels. Click to learn more!

www.jackery.com

designed in the States and make in China (as they all are anyway) Jackery have been around for a while. . . .


They offer three main units: the 240, 500, 1000 ( there are other available, but these are the main three)






more info:

looks like Jackery are reselling via Amazon in the UK

Jackery​

portable power station
amzn.to

Portable Power Station, Power Outdoors - Jackery​

Jackery® offers an array of portable power supply solutions, including portable power stations, solar panels & power banks. Click to learn more!

www.jackery.com



lets see what Will P has to say . .

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Jackery Portable Power Station Explorer 1000, 1002Wh Solar Generator (Solar Panel Optional) with 230V/1000W AC Outlet, Solar Mobile Lithium Battery Pack for Home Emergency Power，Outdoor RV Camping​

1002wh @ £1095 is £1.09 per wh

https://amzn.to/2Q1eaF4

Specifications:

Portable Power Station Explore1000 Battery Capacity: 1002Wh (46.4Ah, 21.6V)

2*AC Output: 2*230V, 1000W (2000W peak)

Car Port: DC 12V, 10A

4*USB Outputs: 2*USB-C ports with PD, 1*USB-A port, 1*quick charge 3.0 port

Input: 8mm DC, 12V~30V

Dimensions: 13.1*9.2*11.1 in

Weight: 22.04lbs

Note:

For power saving, Explorer 1000 portable power station will be turned off automatically in 12 hours when being drawn under 10W power.

Due to the big size of Jackery Power Stations & Solar Panels,PO Box address can not be accepted.

Package:

1*Solar Generator Jackery Explorer 1000 Portable Power Station (1002Wh Portable Power Station)

1*AC Adapter

1*Car Charger Cable

1*SolarSaga Y Parallel Cable

1*User Guide

FAQ

Q1: How to know the working times for my device? Why does the duration of some devices deviate from the actual usage data?

A: Working time = 1002Wh* 0.85 / operating power of your device. The duration of our equipment is based on laboratory data, and the duration of specific equipment usage may vary.

Q2: Can the Explorer 1000 be charged while using?

A: Yes, Explorer 1000 supports pass-through charging. But we don't suggest, it will cause damage to battery life.

Q3: What devices can Explorer 1000 power?

A: Please note that the AC output port can only charge/power devices that operate at less than total 1000 Watt.

Q4: Does Explorer 1000 include a built-in MPPT controller?

A: All Jackery power stations have a built-in MPPT controller.


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Next up is the Jackery Explorer 500 . . .

518wh @ £525 is £1.01 per wh

Jackery Portable Power Station Explorer 500, 518Wh Outdoor Solar Generator Mobile Lithium Battery Pack with 230V/500W AC Outlet for holiday RV Camping, Outdoor Adventure，Emergency : Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors

Shop Jackery Portable Power Station Explorer 500, 518Wh Outdoor Solar Generator Mobile Lithium Battery Pack with 230V/500W AC Outlet for holiday RV Camping, Outdoor Adventure，Emergency. Free delivery on eligible orders of £20 or more.

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Jackery Portable Power Station Explorer 500, 518Wh Outdoor Solar Generator Mobile Lithium Battery Pack with 230V/500W AC Outlet for holiday RV Camping, Outdoor Adventure，Emergency​

Specifications:

• Portable Power Station Explore 500 Battery Capacity: 518Wh (24Ah, 21.6V)
• 1*AC Output: 1*230V, 500W (1000W peak)
• Car Port: DC 12V, 10A
• 3*USB-A port：5V, 2.4A
• 2*6.5mm*1.4mm DC outputs: 12V, 7A( for DIY)
• Input: 8mm DC, 12V~30V (100W Max)
• Dimensions: 11.8*7.6*9.2in
• Weight: 13.3lbs

Note:

For power saving, Explorer 500 will be turned off automatically in 12 hours when being drawn under 10W power.

Package:

• 1* Solar Generator Jackery Explorer 500 Portable Power Station (518Wh Portable Power Station)
• 1*AC Adapter
• 1* Car Charger Cable
• 1* User Manual

FAQ

Q1: What devices can Explorer 500 power?

A: Please note that the AC output port can only charge/power devices that operate at less than total 500 Watt.

Q2: How to know the working times for my device?Why does the duration of some devices deviate from the actual usage data?

A: Working time = 518Wh* 0.85 / operating power of your device.The duration of our equipment is based on laboratory data, and the duration of specific equipment usage may vary.

Q3: How long does it take to full charge this power station?

A: Within 7.5 hours from an AC wall outlet; Also another two recharge backup choices for your convenience, recharge from car port around 7.5 hours, and around within 9.5 hours from Jackery SolarSaga 100W solar panel (Sold Separately).

Q4: Does Explorer 500 include a built-in MPPT controller?

A: All Jackery power stations have a built-in MPPT controller.


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Next up is the Explorer 240

240wh @ £255 is £1.06 per wh

Jackery Portable Power Station Explorer 240, 230V/200W Pure Sine Wave AC Outlet, 240Wh Backup Lithium Battery, Solar Generator for Outdoors Picnic Fishing Travel Party Camping : Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors

Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop Jackery Portable Power Station Explorer 240, 230V/200W Pure Sine Wave AC Outlet, 240Wh Backup Lithium Battery, Solar Generator for Outdoors Picnic Fishing Travel Party Camping.

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Jackery Portable Power Station Explorer 240, 230V/200W Pure Sine Wave AC Outlet, 240Wh Backup Lithium Battery, Solar Generator for Outdoors Picnic Fishing Travel Party Camping

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• Specifications:
• Capacity: 240Wh (16.8Ah, 14.4V)
• Battery Type: 67000mAh Lithium-ion Battery
• Input: 8mm DC, 12V~30V
• AC Output: 230V, 200W (400W peak)
• Car Port: DC 12V, 10A, 120 Watt
• USB Outputs (2): 5V, 2.4A (each)
• Weight: 6.6 lbs
• Dimensions: 9.05*5.19*7.67in

Note: Storage instruction: keep fully charged every 3 months for best results and store it between -20 and 45 °C. Keep your portable power station away from heat and direct sunlight in order to extend its life span. The power station is not TSA approved.

Package:

• 1*Jackery Explorer 240 Portable Power Station (240Wh）
• 1*AC Adapter
• 1* Car Charger Cable
• 1* User Manual

FAQ: Q1: What devices can Explorer 240 power?

A: Please note that the AC output port can only charge/power devices that operate at less than total 200 Watt.

Q2: Can the Explorer 240 be charged while using?

A: Yes, Explorer 240 supports pass-through charging. But we don't suggest, it will cause damage to battery life.

Q3: How to know the working times for my device? Why does the duration of some devices deviate from the actual usage data?

A: Working time = 240Wh* 0.85 / operating wattage of your device. The duration of our equipment is based on laboratory data, and the duration of specific equipment usage may vary.

Q4: Does Explorer 240 include a built-in MPPT controller?

A: All Jackery power stations have a built-in MPPT controller.



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ECOFLOW . . .

EcoFlow

Get power outage ready, go-off-grid and more with EcoFlow portable power stations & solar panels. Click to learn more!

ecoflow.com

I've been watching the ECOFLOW kickstarter for a while now.

they have had some issues but seem to be over them now and are producing some good quality units.

the three main ones are :


Delta 1260wh
River Pro 720wh
River 288wh



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first up:

ECOFLOW EF Portable Power Station River 600, 288Wh Backup Lithium Battery with 2 600W (Peak 1800W) AC Outlets & LED Flashlight, Clean & Silent Solar Generator for Outdoor Camping RV Emergencies Home​

288wh @ £359 is £1.25 per wh

https://amzn.to/3y75JcP

• 【2 x 600W AC OUTLETS AND 288Wh CAPACITY】 The RIVER 600 can power up to 10 devices simultaneously. With 2 pure sine wave AC outlets, the RIVER 600 can power devices up to 1800W with the X-Boost mode on. With a capacity of 288Wh, the RIVER 600 provides enough juice to run essential devices for hours, depending on the actual output.
• 【RECHARGE FROM 0% TO 80% WITHIN 1 HOUR】 With EcoFlow’s patented X-Stream Technology, the smart inverter enables a fast rechargeability that takes less than 1 hour to charge from 0% to 80%, and it gets fully charged in 1.6 hours. You can switch to a quieter charging condition by turning on the “Quiet Charging” status on the APP.
• 【COMPATIBLE WITH 80% of HOME APPLIANCES】 The X-Boost Technology’s advanced built-in algorithm enables most heavy-duty kitchen appliances and tools (up to 1800W) to operate. With X-Boost, RIVER 600 can power 80% of essential home appliances and devices, especially those within 1200W for better using experience. The discharging rates and X-Boost mode can be monitored and controlled through the EcoFlow APP.
• 【FIT YOUR NEEDS, NOW AND LATER】 Double the capacity from 288Wh to 576Wh with Extra Battery, the modular design of RIVER 600, is the power that grows with your needs. Designed for mobility, the 11 lbs solid yet lightweight RIVER 600 is slightly larger than a toaster, which is perfect to take out. You can easily double the capacity of the RIVER 600 from 288Wh to 576Wh by integrating with an Extra Battery.
• 【WHAT IN THE BOX】 1* RIVER 600 288Wh portable power station, 3 types of charging cable (1*1.5M AC Charging Cable, 1*1.5M Car Charging Cable, 1*1.5M MC4 to XT60 Solar Charging Cable), 1*User Guide.
  
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this is the River MAX 576wh

576wh @ £569 is £0.98 per wh

EF ECOFLOW Portable Power Station RIVER Max, 576Wh Backup Lithium Battery with 3 600W (Peak 1200W) AC Outlets & LED Flashlight, Clean & Silent Solar Generator for Outdoor Camping RV : Amazon.co.uk: Garden & Outdoors

Free delivery and returns on all eligible orders. Shop EF ECOFLOW Portable Power Station RIVER Max, 576Wh Backup Lithium Battery with 3 600W (Peak 1200W) AC Outlets & LED Flashlight, Clean & Silent Solar Generator for Outdoor Camping RV.

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EF ECOFLOW Portable Power Station RIVER Max, 576Wh Backup Lithium Battery with 3 600W (Peak 1200W) AC Outlets & LED Flashlight, Clean & Silent Solar Generator for Outdoor Camping RV​

Style Name: River Max

• 【3 x AC OUTLETS AND 576Wh CAPACITY】 The RIVER Max has 3 AC outlets and a capacity of 576Wh, providing users with incredible power for most of your favorite devices.
• 【RECHARGE FROM 0-80% WITHIN 1 HOUR】 EcoFlow X-Stream Charge technology recharges the power station from 0-80% within one hour, which is one of the fastest recharging rates on the market. Quiet Charging can be enabled from the EcoFlow app.
• 【POWER UP TO 10 DEVICES SIMULTANEOUSLY】 EcoFlow’s X-Boost technology allows you to power devices up to 1800W, which lets you power up to 80% of essential devices like kitchen appliances, and DIY tools.
• 【MODULAR DESIGN】Compare with RIVER + RIVER Extra Battery ,No need to install,easier for you. The unique modular design gives you the freedom to adjust the power and portability of RIVER within seconds. The Extra Battery doubles the capacity from 288Wh to 576Wh during situations when you need more power. You can also detach the RIVER Extra Battery easily for more portability during traveling, outdoor adventures, or any application where you need to power devices on the go.
• WHAT IN THE BOX: 1* RIVER Max 576Wh portable power station, 5 types of charging cable (1*1.5M AC Charging Cable, 1*1.5M Car Charging Cable, 1*1.5M MC4 to XT60 Solar Charging Cable, 1*USB 2.0 to Micro or Lightning Cable, 1* Type C to Type C Cable), 1*User Guide.

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next we have the River PRO - 720wh ( this is the one I've gone for)

720wh @ £649 is £0.90 per wh

https://amzn.to/2SsBwEr

EF ECOFLOW RIVER Pro Portable Power Station 720Wh, Power Multiple Devices, Recharge 0-80% Within 1 Hour, for Camping, RV, Outdoors, Off-Grid​

• [2 x 600W AC OUTLETS AND 720Wh CAPACITY]: The RIVER Pro can power up to 9 devices simultaneously with multiple outlet options, including 2 pure sine wave AC outlets. It offers up to 720Wh power and it weighs just 15.9lbs, which makes it a portable power source for adventure on the go.
• [RECHARGE FROM 0-80% WITHIN 1 HOUR]: The patented EcoFlow X-Stream technology enables you to charge the RIVER Pro from 0%-80% within one hour and offers a full charge in just 1.6 hours.
• [POWER A WIDE RANGE OF APPLIANCES]: With a built-in 600W inverter, the RIVER Pro can power some devices up to 1800W with the X-Boost mode on, which lets you power about 80% of essential devices like kitchen appliances and DIY tools. Please conduct full test on a case-by-case basis to see if the X-Boost feature can work with your appliances. Use devices below 1200W for the best product use.
• [DOUBLE CAPACITY FROM 720Wh to 1440Wh]: Add a RIVER Pro Extra Battery to double the capacity from 720Wh to 1440Wh. This is ideal for situations like traveling, camping, or group outdoor activities where you need more power for more devices. RIVER Pro Extra Battery is sold separately.
• [24-MONTH PRODUCT GUARANTEE]: The RIVER Pro portable power station comes with a 24-month product guarantee, and EcoFlow offers a 24x7 specialist customer service. In the box: 1x RIVER Pro, 1x AC Charging Cable, 1x Car Charging Cable, 1x Solar Charging Cable, 1x DC5521-DC5525 Cable, 1x RIVER Pro User Manual, 1x RIVER Pro GUARANTEE Card.

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next up the BIG DADDY . . . . .

DELTA 1260wh

1260wh @ £1299 is £1.03 per wh

https://amzn.to/2Q1fpUM

ECOFLOW Portable Power Station DELTA International Edition, UPS Power Supply 1260Wh Battery Pack with 4 1800W (3300W Surge) AC Outlets, Solar Battery Power Generator for Outdoor,Camping, RV​

Style Name: Delta

• 【4x 1800W AC OUTLETS & 1260Wh CAPACITY】Equipped with large invertor load, which can power most home appliances and heavy duty DIY tools under 1800W (3300W Surge, PURE SINE WAVE) : like TV, Fridge, Coffee Machine, Microwave Oven, CPAP, Drill and Saw. With 1260Wh capacity, EFDELTA can be truly a backup generator that keeps the lights, fridges running for hours. With Patented BMS, EFDELTA enjoys 1 YEAR SHELF LIFE which holds charge for one year after fully recharged for any emergency need.
• 【RECHARGE FROM 0% TO 80% WITHIN 1 HOUR】EFDELTA can be recharged from 0% to 80% in 1 hour and to 100% in 1.6 hours. X-STREAM TECHNOLOGY: ECOFLOW patented X-Stream Technology empowers EFDELTA recharged at 10 times the speed of most portable power stations in the market with just a standard AC cable. (NO HEAVY, BULKY ADAPTOR or BRICK).
• 【FASTEST RECHARGE BY SOLAR AND CAR】EFDELTA MPPT Controller guarantees faster recharge rate of solar and the wider compatibility with EcoFlow solar panel: Open Circuit voltage(OCV): 10-65V/ 10A max, 400W Max Input. (MC4 to XT60 Solar Cable Included). SOLAR RECHARGE TIME: EFDELTA can be fully recharged by solar panel in about 4 Hours . CAR RECHARGE TIME: it can be fully charged through a 12/24V car port in 10-12 HOURS.
• 【POWER 11 DEVICES SIMULTANEOUSLY】EFDELTA fits with every port you’ll ever need to power any devices anywhere, so you will feel always right at home. For example, EFDELTA can power following 11 devices simultaneously: 4x AC OUTLETS: Fridge, TV, Light, Fry Pan, Blender and Coffee Machine; 2x 60W USB-C: MacBook Pro and Nintendo Switch; 4x USB-A (2 normal+2 fast charge): Smart Phones, Speaker and Tablets; 1x 13.6V CAR PORT: Car Fridge or Vacuum Cleaner.
• 【WHAT YOU GET】1 EFDELTA 1260Wh portable power station International Edition , 5 types of charging cable (1*AC UK plug, 1*AC AU plug, 1*AC EU plug, 1*Car Charge Cable, 1*MC4 to XT60 Solar Panel Cable), 1*EFDELTA Bag , 1*User Guide.

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PowerOak

 

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GoalZero

 

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Chinese Clones and unbranded units.

 

[Ricardo T]

Thanks @Dellmassive.....useful stuff to see all the options in one place.

 

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The ECOFLOW has arrived . . . . .

update and testing later.

 

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Excellent write up @Dellmassive as usual. And a wealth of information about something that i have been thinking about for a while.

 

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The ECOFLOW has arrived . . . . .

Unboxing . .

so here we have it - the ECOFLOW PRO - https://amzn.to/3brMMYz




Lets have a look . .

it come well packaged . . and labled. (and shipped from the UK in 48hrs)



inside the outer box we have the Retail box . .



there was some nice design touches with the packaging.





The top box gives you all the accessories and a manual . .

you get all you need to get started.

and 240v IEC main s lead for charging, (there is no charging brick as it plug straight into the wall )

a XC60 to MC4 for connecting solar panels

a XC60 to 12v plug for car charging

and a small DC out lead.





the next layer down was the unit its self . . .

Front.




input side . . . .





under that flap . . .




back side . .




240v out side (and link port for additional battery pack)




size wise for a comparison . . this is it next to an ALLPOWERS 372.



its kinda this big . . .




here is another size comparison . . next to a few tins.




id say its about the size of a 4x slice toaster.




it says the first thing to do is to charge it up . . . . .

so lets do that.


plugging it into the wall we get this.





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Look at this . . . . . 608W charging !!!!!!!!





it started at 31% . . . . .





lets put that into context . . . . 600w charging.

The ALLPOWERS 372 comes with a 60w USB-PD charger which is fast !!!

that will charge at 60W.

This unit will charge at 600W . . . . direct from the wall . . thats 10x times faster than the ALLPOWERS (and just about anything out there) !!!


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Impressions so far . . .

The build quality seems very good.
The unit feels study and has a good weight to it.
The handle feels strong and durable.
The accessories look to be very good quality.
An accessories carry bag would have been a nice addition to keep them in (like the NOCO stuff)
The charge rate is almost unbelievable . .. super fast !



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specs.

BrandEcoFlowSize28.9 x 18.0 x 23.5 cm
Weight7.2kg
MaterialPlastic
Battery typeLithium-ionBattery
capacity in Wh720 Wh
Output USBUSB-A Output (x2): 12W per port, 5V DC, 2.4A
USB-A Fast Charge (x1): 28W, 5V DC, 9V DC,12V DC, 2.4A Max
USB-C Output (x1): 100W, 5V DC, 9V DC,12V DC, 15V DC, 20V DC, 5A
MaxOutput DCCar Power Output (x1): 136W, 13.6V DC, 10A Max
DC5521 Output (x2): 13.6V DC, 3A Max (per port)Output 220 VAC Output (x2): 600W (Surge 1200W)Input DCAC Charge Input Power, X-STREAM: 660W Max
Solar Charge Input MC4 to XT60: 200W 10-25V DC 12A Max
Car Charge Input: 12V DC 10A Max
WaterproofNo
Overcharge protectionYes
Charge indicatorYes
Operating temperature
Discharge Temp: -20 to 60°C +/-3°C
Charge Temp: 0 to 45°C +/-3°C
Recharge time via AC1.6 hours
Wifi functionYes



more info : EcoFlow RIVER Pro Portable Power Station


here is a quick look at the APP. . .





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Manual & Downloads:

Official EcoFlow APP download

Get power outage ready, go-off-grid and more with EcoFlow portable power stations & solar panels. Learn more.

ecoflow.com

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1996/9707/files/EcoFlow_RIVER_Pro_User_Manual.pdf?v=1612153535

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1996/9707/files/RIVER_600-English.pdf?v=1602484192

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1996/9707/files/RIVER_600_MAX.pdf?v=1602820170

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1996/9707/files/EcoFlow_DELTA_User_Manual.pdf?v=1596709202

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[Dellmassive]

p8 Part2

The ECOFLOW has arrived . . . . .

update and testing later

Here is some APP shots . .



i missed the exact point . . .

but we are 100% charged - from 30%.

looking at the time stamps from the pics it was about an hour.





looking over the User guide, here are some point of note:

Product Use: Product Safety Guidelines Glossary NOTICE CAUTION WARNING WARNING WARNING

1. DO NOT expose the product to any liquids. Do not immerse the product in water. DO NOT leave the batteries out in the rain or near a source of moisture. Moisture in the device could cause short circuits, component failure, fires or even an explosion.
2. Never use NON-EcoFlow parts. Go to EcoFlow Portable Power Station | EcoFlow DELTA Power Station to purchase new parts. EcoFlow takes no responsibilities for any damages caused by the use of non-EcoFlow parts.
3. Never install or remove other modules from the RIVER Pro when it is turned on. Do Not plug or unplug other modules when the power of the product is turned on, otherwise the power interface may be damaged.
4. Using the product in environments above 140ºF (60°C) may cause fire or explosion. Using the product in environments below -4ºF (-20°C) will severely affect the performance of the product. Allow the product to return to a normal operating temperature before use it.
5. DO NOT use the batteries in strong electrostatic or electromagnetic environments. Otherwise, the battery control board may malfunction and cause a serious accident during use.
6. Never disassemble or pierce the product in any way. Otherwise, it may leak, catch on fire, or explode.
7. DO NOT use the product if it was involved in a crash or a heavy bump.
8. If the product falls into the water during use, take the product out immediately and put it in a safe and open area. Keep a safe distance from it until it is completely dry. Never use it again and dispose it properly as described in the Battery Disposal section below. If the product catches fire, it is recommended to use fire extinguishing equipment in the following order: water or water mist, sand, fire blanket, dry powder, carbon dioxide fire extinguisher.
9. DO NOT put the machine in a microwave oven or in a pressurized container. The instructions, if not properly followed, may result in property damage and minor physical damage. The instructions, if not properly followed, may result in property damage and serious physical damage. The instructions, if not properly followed, may result in property damage, major accident and serious injury. Improper use may result in fire, property damage or personal injury. Make sure to use the product according to the following safety rules and guidelines. Travel Notice: Product Maintenance: Product Battery Disposal: Product Storage and Transportation:
10. Do Not allow pins, wires or other metal pieces to insert to the device case, outlets or controls. Metal pieces may short circuit the product.
11. Avoid collision. DO NOT place heavy objects on the machine.
12. If there is dirt on any plug or outlet surface, use a dry cloth to clean it. Otherwise, it will cause abrasion and result in energy loss or inability to charge.


Product Charging:
1. Always use EcoFlow approved charging cables. EcoFlow does not take any responsibility for any damages caused by using non-EcoFlow charging cables.
2. When charging, please place the product on the ground with no flammable or combustible materials around. To prevent accidents, never leave the machine unattended during charging.
3. DO NOT charge the product immediately after a long heavy load, because the product temperature may become too high. DO NOT charge the product until it cools down to room temperature.

1. Temperature for normal use and storage of this product is -4°F to 113°F (-20°C to 45°C) and temperature for optimal use and storage of this product is 68°F to 77°F (20°C to 25°C).
Cold weather use Cold temperatures (below freezing) can affect the unit’s battery capacity due to chemical characteristics of the battery.
Keep the power station within the environment temperature range, -4 to 113°F (-20 to 45°C) to prolong battery life
2. If the product is not used for a long time, the battery life may be reduced.
3. Discharge EcoFlow RIVER Pro to 30%, then charge to 85% every 3 months to keep the battery healthy



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FIRMWARE - you need to be connected to the home WFI for some internet for the update to kick int.

so connect direct to the unit . . . then add your home wifi, then the updates come through.




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[Dellmassive]

p8 Part3

The ECOFLOW has arrived . . . . .

testing with devices

First up . . . Mobile Disco testing.

3x 240v DJ LED Moving heads - 175w No problems =]





phone and tablet charging.




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QC3 - 9.1v @ 1.6A . . . .




Normal Tablet - USB2.0 mode . . . 5.1v @ 2.2A



Note:

Last nights FW update has reduced the 12v socket out let from 10A down to 8A - im assuming the 10A draw was causing to much heating of the plug/socket.



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3way fridge . . . 70W



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NOCO Genius10 10A-charger, charging 100Ah Lifepo4 Poweroad battery - 140w



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[Ian_T6]

p8 Part3

The ECOFLOW has arrived . . . . .

testing with devices

First up . . . Mobile Disco testing.

3x 240v DJ LED Moving heads - 175w No problems =]


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phone and tablet charging.


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QC3 - 9.1v @ 1.6A . . . .

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Normal Tablet - USB2.0 mode . . . 5.1v @ 2.2A

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Note:

Last nights FW update has reduced the 12v socket out let from 10A down to 8A - im assuming the 10A draw was causing to much heating of the plug/socket.



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3way fridge . . . 70W


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NOCO Genius10 10A-charger, charging 100Ah Lifepo4 Poweroad battery - 140w

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Any more updates on the Ecoflow @Dellmassive I’m very temped. Love my Allpowers that you recommend…

 

[Dellmassive]

Yep Loving the ECOFLOW RIVER PRO . . .

Charging test - Solar

had a bit of sun the other day, so a good chance to throw some solar panels at it . .

the spec states:

25v @ 12A MAX for solar input. (300W theory max)

Input DC	AC Charge Input Power, X-STREAM: 660W Max Solar Charge Input MC4 to XT60: 200W 10-25V DC 12A Max Car Charge Input: 12V DC 10A Max

so lets see.

here is a couple of 120w Lensun Flexable panels, single and in parrallel.





The included X60 to MC4 link cable is very good quality.. so i just plugged them straingh in.

with the branch connector: Raguso MC4 Solar Panel Branch Connector Multi Branch Optional Male Female for Photovoltaic Systems: Amazon.co.uk: Kitchen & Home








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dont forget the MC4-MC4 PV extension cable, like this 5m one: https://amzn.to/3cjDSN1


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this was the RIVER app showing a 40W solar input.





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Charging test - 12v car plug

next up was to try the included 12v X60 to 12v plug.

the new firmware update has reduced the max charge rate from 10A down to 8.5A . . . . which is a good thing as the plug will get very hot at 10A.

so well done ECOFLOW for keeping the improvements coming. (even at 8.5A there is warming, but it doesnt get too hot)

i used a 15A fused NOCO 12v socket to battery clamp lead: https://amzn.to/3fMZtQb





this was clamped to one of the new Lifepo4 POWEROAD PRLC-100 batterys : https://www.t6forum.com/threads/low-temperature-lithium-battery.24971/



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this gave us a solid 100W charge rate . . .



this is the battery monitor APP, showing the 8.39A that the RIVER was drawing . . .




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So far the ECOFLOW is a solid performer.

good quality and well built.

im very happy with my one.



id say its an improvement over the ALLLPOWERS . . . . BUT,

having said that this technology is jumping ahead monthly, so the ECOFLOW is a year more modern, so has improvements over the ALLPOWERS.


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[Dellmassive]

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[Dellmassive]

ECO Flow River PRO 600 . . .

300w mains air pump test. . . .

lets blow up some garden toys . . . =]





one double airbed / sofa . . .




300watts no problem . . . . . Note the ALLPOWERS had trouble with the pump, tripping out the overload protection.

no problems here though . . the ECOFLOW smashed it.





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job done, the pool too. !!!





Nice. . .

 

[Dellmassive]

Todays Free Solar PV charging. - its sunny outside. =]

using the included 12v-X60 charge lead to charge the ECOFLOW from the solar shed battery bank.


one ECOFLOW . . . .



included charge load . . . plugged into the DC input side.



the other end has a 12v plug attachement. . . . that connected to the 12v busbar of the solar shed.






i used this NOCO adapter. - only £5.85 !!!

12v fused socket to battery clamps.

https://amzn.to/2U6nbhV

the solar shed battery bank is charged from the roof panels and this Victron 100/20 MPPT.





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The ECOFLOW DC input is limited to 100W (8.5A) to stop the socket from getting hot . . . . but will go higher in Solar mode.


we can see the 100W from the victron here: ( i have other 12v loads running that account for the other 34w)





and also in the APP for the ECOFLOW here:





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Amazon.co.uk : solar generator

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[Ricardo T]

Hi @Dellmassive...looking at your pic of the EcoFlow connected up to your solar panels, I notice the absence of any controller?

 

[Dellmassive]

Hi @Dellmassive...looking at your pic of the EcoFlow connected up to your solar panels, I notice the absence of any controller?

Correct . . . The unit has a built in mppt solar controller. So you can connect the panels directly.

FYI . . The Allpowers is the same.