Should we say T6.2

[FWhite]

Hi, I have a question that is more towards our esteemed Moderators & Gurus.

Often when I read technical documents and threads here, about the T6.1, they actually do NOT match my one.
I am one of the "lucky" owners of a later (past 2022 I think is the boundary) T6.1. There must be some hundreds of them around, at least outside of the UK.
I am talking about one of those with the Bosch ECU and DMZx - DNAx engines.
Many of the important engine manuals and procedures downloadable are not matching and I suspect that also wiring diagrams /fuse locations being unreliable, i.e. the rear lights bulbs do not match.
Things as front brakes (for T32), front suspension (for T28 and T30) seem also to have deviations, as the (bigger) Adblue Tank (and probably the whole system/SW/HMI). Finally when we speak avout remapping, that is not feasible with our subtype.
These are substantial differences,
looks like a wholly different sub-type to me, while sharing the same plastic wings and rear reflectors like a "standard" T6.1.

So I would humbly ask:

1-Should we call our model a T6.2, in order to avoid confusion?

2-Could anyone "in the know" try to upload some technical manuals actually applicable to the "T6.2" ?

Thanks in advance to all having the patience of answering.

FWhite

 

[Sackmycook]

I would humbly say 'no'.....

T5/5.1 T6/T6.1 are bodywork changes and so visually identifiable. Your T6.2 is identical to a T6.1

 

[Sackmycook]

What would you call a Eu5 T6 with no add blue ?

 

[Bav]

No.

 

[FWhite]

I would humbly say 'no'.....

T5/5.1 T6/T6.1 are bodywork changes and so visually identifiable. Your T6.2 is identical to a T6.1

I am even not sure of that.
Do all T6.1 with halogen have the H15 bulb for DRL/Hi beam?
Do all have the W16W Stop bulb with PWM double side light and Molded -in LED foglight ?
I am honestly asking because my paper owners manual is not aware of them.
Anyway, a completely different (set of) engines I think is a significant difference.

 

[FWhite]

What would you call a Eu5 T6 with no add blue ?

If you mean AdBlue, there are folks that talk about a T5.2. Not sure they mean the same thing, I am a newcomer concernig VW stuff.

 

[Srea064]

Hi, I have a question that is more towards our esteemed Moderators & Gurus.

Often when I read technical documents and threads here, about the T6.1, they actually do NOT match my one.
I am one of the "lucky" owners of a later (past 2022 I think is the border) T6.1. There must be some hundreds of them around, at least outside of the UK.
I am talking about one of those with the Bosch ECU and DMZx - DNAx engines.
Many of the important engine manuals and procedures downloadable are not matching and I suspect that also wiring diagrams /fuse locations being unreliable, i.e. the rear lights bulbs do not match.
Things as front brakes (for T32), front suspension (for T28 and T30) seem also to have deviations, as the (bigger) Adblue Tank (and probably the whole system/SW/HMI). Finally when we speak avout remapping, that is not feasible with our subtype.
These are substantial differences,
looks like a wholly different sub-type to me, while sharing the same plastic wings and rear reflectors like a "standard" T6.1.

So I would humbly ask:

1-Should we call our model a T6.2, in order to avoid confusion?

2-Could anyone "in the know" try to upload some technical manuals actually applicable to the "T6.2" ?

Thanks in advance to all having the patience of answering.

FWhite

Exact same year and engine as mine and it’s definitely a T6.1. Post up some pics and let’s see your pride an joy

 

[Sasquatch]

VW don't, so we shoudn't.

It just confuses matters, like when people refer to the wrong vehicle as a T7.

Interestingly, the whole "T" thing started as nomenclature among enthusiasts and a few decades back VW themselves adopted in and then applied it retrospectively to earlier generations.

If it were still only an enthusiasts naming convention we could call it 6.2, the 69, the Gary Glitter, the whatever, but now the system has been officially adopted we should stick to it else it becomes daft and confusing.

 

[Sackmycook]

If you mean AdBlue.....

Clearly I do but sometimes I press 'post' before correcting spell check. Was there something else you thought I may have meant ?

 

[FWhite]

Clearly I do but sometimes I press 'post' before correcting spell check. Was there something else you thought I may have meant ?

Hy, sorry if that has you upset. English is not my first language and that did not mean to be confrontational.
I was meaning like "referring to adblue..." in my intentions.
I ask please everyone to be patient with that. I learnt English as third language (and sadly mostly by Americans as you may find out) and I do not have the finesse.
Good that you cannot hear my Latin accent BTW.

 

[FWhite]

Exact same year and engine as mine and it’s definitely a T6.1. Post up some pics and let’s see your pride an joy

Sorry I do not know what you mean.
I tried to post a picture now but the picture icon is not working in this moment.

 

[Srea064]

Sorry I do not know what you mean.
I tried to post a picture now but the picture icon is not working in this moment.

Sorry, as a new member you have to post a few times before you’re allowed to upload images, just post them when you can

 

[FWhite]

No.

OK,
So it seems that was a bad idea.
Thanks anyway to all.

I wanted just to try avoid some assumpions like :
"This will work in your T6.1", or "in the T6.1 is like that" when it is clearly not the case as you simply look inside the bonnet or under the van.

Again I guess the number of the affected ones shouldn't be relevant, at least to this forum.
I can live with that and I will try to continue to supply my findings and pictures when I see the above happening, unless I see that it annoys someone.

Then,
Has anyone anything to say about the point -2? (/selfish icon follows/)

 

[Sackmycook]

I am even not sure of that.
Do all T6.1 with halogen have the H15 bulb for DRL/Hi beam?
Do all have the W16W Stop bulb with PWM double side light and Molded -in LED foglight ?
I am honestly asking because my paper owners manual is not aware of them.
Anyway, a completely different (set of) engines I think is a significant difference.

I think you're missing the point

 

[Lubrown]

OK,
So it seems that was a bad idea.
Thanks anyway to all.

In my book it’s always good to ask questions. I can understand the thought process - differences here and there make some posts less relevant depending on year the van was made.
Look out for the model year (MY) in posts (might not always be provided though) and, when you have questions relating to your van, make sure you add that info if you feel it will be relevant.

 

[FWhite]

VW don't, so we shoudn't.

It just confuses matters, like when people refer to the wrong vehicle as a T7.

Actually I wanted to propose to call it a T7 or a T7 -.1.
....................................................
Edit :
Sorry, I couldn't resist

 

[T6Plumber]

With the amount of stuff this forum has coerced me into changing from standard on mine, I’m calling it a T6.48

 

[Bav]

OK,
So it seems that was a bad idea.
Thanks anyway to all.

I understand your intention, but I reckon your proposal would cause at least as much confusion as it would resolve - especially for the casual visitor who stumbles upon the forum following a Google search.

As @Lubrown mentions, a lot of the current confusion could be mitigated if, when posting, people specified their van's model year and whether it's a T6 or a T6.1.

 

[FWhite]

Then,
Has anyone anything to say about the point -2? (/selfish icon follows/)

So no one has access to manuals/documents about the *T6.1 B/Y 2022-> * ?
(I hope it is clear enough so)

Especially about the
DNAx and DMZx
engines?
I am a kindly asking for us minority users, not any urgency.

Thanks!

 

[FWhite]

So no one has access to manuals/documents about the *T6.1 B/Y 2022-> * ?
(I hope it is clear enough so)

Especially about the
DNAx and DMZx
engines?
I am a kindly asking for us minority users, not any urgency.

Thanks!

OK, seems there is nothing.
Hopefully in the future when the quota of those late 6.1 will become by attrition more relevant, something will happen.
Meanwhile,
does anyone have access to the SSP722.PDF file mentioned
HERE
?
The link in the post doesn't seem to work any more.