Retrofit Cruise Control To 2017 T6 - Been Told Can't Do It!!??

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  1. record1976

    record1976 New Member

    Hi,

    I'm desperately hoping that someone here will tell me that this is not true!

    Just bought a VW T6 Transporter Shuttle, booked in for B14's, wheels on order...everything lined up.

    Just had a call from local VW garage saying that they can't do the retrofit cruise control I booked the van in for because VW has come back to them and said on that some change recently means that this is now only a factory fit option.

    Cruise control is an absolute must for me, I would never have bought the vehicle but never considered that it would not be possibly to retrofit.

    Help!
     
  2. Pauly

    Pauly Senior Member VCDS User Admin Moderator

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    It can be done, replacing the stalk is the normal method and adding it in as you would on most VAG vehicles
    If they can’t do it you are prob best going to a decent retrofit, I’m assuming you have taken it to the VAG garage in Exeter are they the ones saying it can’t be done ?
    I know someone in Plymouth who can do it for you
     
  3. record1976

    record1976 New Member

    Yes VAG garage Carr's of Exeter but also local independent VW garage said can't get parts for T6 yet!?
    Would appreciate recommendation in Plymouth.
     
  4. Ashypants

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  5. Pauly

    Pauly Senior Member VCDS User Admin Moderator

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    Did you try Volkscraft ?
    Matts been on here in the past would think he could do it
     
  6. volkscraft

    volkscraft Member

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    Speak of the devil and he appears! Thanks for the recommendation Pauly, hope you're well mate? I'm looking in to it right now.
     
  7. Dieseldonkey

    Dieseldonkey 150 DSG Shuttle Conversion VIP Member T6 Legend

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    It was first thing on my list for my Shuttle. Had it fitted by Professional Retrofits. Something to bare in mind. Even though your Shuttle is a euro 6, you can fit the cruise on a stalk, like euro 5's had. However, if your thinking of a MFSW in the future, then the euro 6 wheels have cruise switches located on them instead of a stalk. However I believe you can put a euro 5 Highline MFSW on instead though, minus cruise switches.
     
  8. volkscraft

    volkscraft Member

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    Just spent an hour on the phone to TPS. There are about 100 different BCM's for the T6 and As @record1976 's van doesn't have fog lamps it will require a body module upgrade too apparently. @Dieseldonkey Did yours need a BCM replacement? They're £320+ Vat alone apparently.
    **Edit** Just noticed @Dieseldonkey 's is a Euro 5. Much more straight forward on a euro 5 it seems. They use similar (if not the same) part numbered BCM's as T5.1.
     
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  9. Dieseldonkey

    Dieseldonkey 150 DSG Shuttle Conversion VIP Member T6 Legend

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    No. Mines a 2016, but it's a euro 6. The euro 6 engine appeared much earlier in the people carriers, than it did in Kombis and PVs. In fact I don't think there was a euro 5 T6 Shuttle. Existing factory BCM took the cruise without issue. I wanted cruise on the stalk as I didn't, at that time have a MFSW and actually preferred it in this location. I've just retro fitted factory fog lights too. No issue there either. Just plugged straight into the original BCM connector. Here's my BCM if this helps

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  10. volkscraft

    volkscraft Member

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    The part number combinations have a 'Colour code' Which is a variant of that part number not listed on the part or VCDS usually.

    For instance the one listed for @record1976 's 2017 Shuttle in standard form is 7E0 937 090B ZDV. The ZDV part is the colour code which states 'without cruise or fog lamps'. There are 270 versions of the 7E0 937 090B which are differentiated by colour codes. There are 55 different sections of ETKA for the BCM, each with a slightly different date range or base spec and each potentially with hundreds of colour code variants inside!

    Without counting, there could be thousands of BCM variants, It truly is a retrofitters nightmare!
     
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  11. andys

    andys Senior Member VIP Member T6 Legend

    Well b****** me! This may finally be the answer to the very first T6 issue I had, why I couldn't get retrofitted Safelock coding to work on mine, even though it was fitted with a BCM with the same number as all the ones that did have it.
     
  12. Dieseldonkey

    Dieseldonkey 150 DSG Shuttle Conversion VIP Member T6 Legend

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    Ah. Afraid I'll have to pass then as I've no knowledge with this bit. Maybe I was just lucky with the BCM I had fitted in mine from the factory, as it took the cruise and fog/cornering light wiring without issue.
     
  13. Dieseldonkey

    Dieseldonkey 150 DSG Shuttle Conversion VIP Member T6 Legend

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    Just giving this some thought. @zebra quoted this in his very useful fog light retrofit post.

    This is the power supply wire into the BCM that the fog lights use. Like @zebra mine was already on situ. Would establishing if this wire is already in place help you in working out if the BCM can actually do something that's not listed against it. ie cruise and fog lights. Just an idea.
     
  14. volkscraft

    volkscraft Member

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    I think all of the connectors are the same, It's more that the BCM firmware or chipset up will be different to support these features.
     
  15. Give HazzyDayz a ring.
    That fitted it to my 2017 Cali
     
  16. volkscraft

    volkscraft Member

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    HazzyDayz certainly seem to know a work around with the BCM, they are saying £200 + Vat extra if you don't have front foglamps. Either that or they have a cheap supply of BCM's as they're £300 to us from TPS.
     
  17. HootingOwl

    HootingOwl Senior Member T6 Guru

    HazyDayz are used by VAG dealers all over the UK because they understand the VW electrical system. Dealers can only follow instructions in the workshop manuals.
     
  18. record1976

    record1976 New Member

    Just wanted to update the thread on the outcome.
    A trip to Hazzydayz yesterday and they fitted a multifunction steering wheel with cruise control function and all working great!
    They were more than happy to fit the steering wheel I bought on ebay.
    Thanks Hazzydayz team!
     
  19. True Romance

    True Romance 204 TDi DSG LWB VIP Member T6 Guru

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    Awesome! Glad you got it sorted. T6 forum to the rescue again :)
     
  20. Tanzi

    Tanzi New Member VIP Member

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    Dieseldonkey,

    Were you able to code this with VCDS, just scanned my BCM with Carista and it appears to be the same as yours but heard you need different software to code it? TIA.
     

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