Coronavirus and Fuel Pumps

Just to add to my earlier comment:

"A hoax social media message shared by millions of people is wrongly warning that the virus is being spread by people touching petrol pumps.

The message, shared widely on Twitter and WhatsApp, claims that NHS officials had told staff that the 'virus seems to be spreading quickly via petrol pumps'.

Coronavirus can survive on plastic and stainless steel for up to 72 hours, but a spokesman for Public Health England said: 'Petrol pumps are no worse than other surfaces, although we do recommend people use gloves and wash their hands after using them.' " Hoax WhatsApp message wrongly claims coronavirus is being spread by people touching petrol pumps | Daily Mail Online

Like I said earlier, it's still a good idea to wear gloves and wash your hands afterwards but the threat of catching the virus is no higher from fuel pumps than it is from other hard surfaces. Just be cautious about anything you touch that other people may have.
 
I’ve found that lots of petrol stations accept Apple Pay with a much larger limit. I’ve used my watch/phone up to £100 at some petrol stations, and there’s no touch points.
 
If you are not a front line key worker then heed the government advice and stay in, not only will you not need to worry about filling up for a while you may actually help to save a few lives!
 
JasonW said:
If you are not a front line key worker then heed the government advice and stay in, not only will you not need to worry about filling up for a while you may actually help to save a few lives!
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I'm pleased to see so many on here taking this threat seriously, it is clear that disregarding the rules not only puts the individual and his / her family at risk, it also risks overwhelming the NHS which has consequences for others.
However, I also think that we should not discourage people from getting out in the fresh air, walking, cycling, enjoying our countryside and getting some exercise which is good for our physical and mental health. (Vital in these difficult times.)
I live in a rural village with lots of footpaths and woodland nearby. I have three dogs and we walk every day regardless of the weather.
I've seen cyclists going past my house today, posing no risk to me or anybody else.
If we stop going out we will all go stir crazy! Boris has just said we can exercise once a day outdoors.
The idiots in their droves standing 6 inches apart in busy parts of the countryside and coastal areas have made draconian new laws necessary, however we need to assess the risk of everything we do, like refuelling, ask ourselves what can we do to mitigate the risks, can we make the risk small enough to be acceptable?
When it comes to getting out for a walk I'd say the risks are already low if you choose where you go carefully, and can be lowered even further with a bit of common sense. It's easy to stay 2 metres from anybody you meet, as I did today, or put a glove on to open a gate.
So If you live in a city, perhaps this might not be practical or possible for you, but I for one will be out walking every day using common sense, within the new rules.
 
DaveD said:
When it comes to getting out for a walk I'd say the risks are already low if you choose where you go carefully, and can be lowered even further with a bit of common sense.
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There lies the problem.... Common sense

As you saw on the weekend... "Common sense..." A commodity lacking in thousands of people..!


 
Just a heads up The Ministry of Defence have been told to be on standby for complete UK lockdown as of Sunday evening at 6pm... No one is to leave their home's unless you work in Front Line Retail or the NHS...

I heard this directly from my neighbour Trigger who is best friends with a guy called Boycey. Boycey knows a guy named Del who drinks down the pub with his uncle Albert. Albert was in the Navy during the war so knows his stuff.

Please pass it on.
 
Easy to say for those of you with other people at home to interact with, to talk to on a daily basis. So consider, before you get on your high-horse, when your only physical interaction is an automated air freshener, this gets much, much harder, so if my car becomes an extension of my solitude with a different view out of the window, then as long as I don't get out, so be it. I can't go shopping as there's no point, the greedy, fat b@5st@rds have taken it all, so no need to risk that and no social interaction at all, with anyone, so if I have to get a safe change of scenery to distance my mind from the empty cupboards, I will do so.
I grew up when nothing was safe, pre-internet, but we learnt to stay safe and not kill anyone so I'll exercise my own caution from many years of experience to stay away from everyone but I'm not staying indoors, alone, for weeks at a time. Argue all you like, but lock yourself away from your families with only phone contact for 2 weeks (already) before saying anything. There is only so much you can do with phone calls as your only interaction. My mental health is worth more than that and if I can go out and not meet with anyone and perhaps not go stark raving bonkers, I will exercise that option. I'm not p155ing off the NHS but am still not socialising, talking, sharing, communicating or interacting with anyone.
As for petrol, a box of nitrile gloves (1 pair per fill-up) and Tesco pay at pump will mitigate that risk. again, no social contact, no talking to anyone, no joking, laughing, discussing, thinking, agreeing, disagreeing....
You get my drift. Try it, then argue your point. I'll listen.
 
Sabre said:
Easy to say for those of you with other people at home to interact with, to talk to on a daily basis. So consider, before you get on your high-horse, when your only physical interaction is an automated air freshener, this gets much, much harder, so if my car becomes an extension of my solitude with a different view out of the window, then as long as I don't get out, so be it. I can't go shopping as there's no point, the greedy, fat b@5st@rds have taken it all, so no need to risk that and no social interaction at all, with anyone, so if I have to get a safe change of scenery to distance my mind from the empty cupboards, I will do so.
I grew up when nothing was safe, pre-internet, but we learnt to stay safe and not kill anyone so I'll exercise my own caution from many years of experience to stay away from everyone but I'm not staying indoors, alone, for weeks at a time. Argue all you like, but lock yourself away from your families with only phone contact for 2 weeks (already) before saying anything. There is only so much you can do with phone calls as your only interaction. My mental health is worth more than that and if I can go out and not meet with anyone and perhaps not go stark raving bonkers, I will exercise that option. I'm not p155ing off the NHS but am still not socialising, talking, sharing, communicating or interacting with anyone.
As for petrol, a box of nitrile gloves (1 pair per fill-up) and Tesco pay at pump will mitigate that risk. again, no social contact, no talking to anyone, no joking, laughing, discussing, thinking, agreeing, disagreeing....
You get my drift. Try it, then argue your point. I'll listen.
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Wow!! You need to get out more.......:whistle:
 
If the virus can live in the air for hours then surely a 2 metre separation is not going to be enough? I was out walking the dog this morning along side the creek, where I very really see anyone, but I could smell cigarette smoke, so someone had been along before me and so whatever he/she was breathing out was still in the air? what if they had the virus?,
 
Dieseldonkey said:
That's an interesting and informative read Nick. Have to say though, it doesn't reduce the amount of hand washing I do. But as a training tool and preventative measure for touching my face, it's been invaluable. I'm actually shocked how much I touched my face subconsciously each day.
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all my point was is to wear gloves for sure but wash or gel them or replace them regularly. . trat them like you would your hands

and to Loz please carry on using your methods . no one saying anything else... just a talking point

and true im not a scientist but am highly trained in using the science of cleaning and bactericides along with water quality and hygiene, Legionella control / disinfection. i know this is bacteria and not Virus but same kinda control measures are used . both are air born .

im even licenced to use insecticides but i ll save that discussion for the next plague when the Locust swarms arrive ha ha ha
 
JasonW said:
If you are not a front line key worker then heed the government advice and stay in, not only will you not need to worry about filling up for a while you may actually help to save a few lives!
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but this is exactly the problem. i don't think that's the government advice is it?
the advice is if you can't work from home then travelling to work is OK.
or did i hear/read that wrong??

edit: just checked the gov.uk website and it says:

Stay at home:
- Only go outside for food, health reasons or work (where this absolutely cannot be done from home)
- Stay 2 metres (6ft) away from other people
- Wash your hands as soon as you get home


link:
Coronavirus (COVID-19): what you need to do
 
The highlighted part of your post is only one of the four legal reasons you might have for leaving your home, the word document linked shows all four. For the avoidance of confusion it states:

You should only leave the house for one of four reasons:
  • shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible.
  • one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household.
  • any medical need, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person.
  • travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home.
 
Salty Spuds said:
Just a heads up The Ministry of Defence have been told to be on standby for complete UK lockdown as of Sunday evening at 6pm... No one is to leave their home's unless you work in Front Line Retail or the NHS...

I heard this directly from my neighbour Trigger who is best friends with a guy called Boycey. Boycey knows a guy named Del who drinks down the pub with his uncle Albert. Albert was in the Navy during the war so knows his stuff.

Please pass it on.
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Awesome. Might mean that those of us in the fire and rescue can go into lock down as well then. Let’s just hope those working in front line retail and the NHS don’t crash on the way to work. For everyone else, since the risk of house fires has now gone up by virtue of everyone is spending every minute of every day holed up in them, turn off your electricity, don’t smoke, make sure no concave mirrors are facing the sun or that lightning doesn’t strike your houses, as you’ll be waiting around three weeks for a fire engine to arrive (almost as long as it takes to get a bobby to turn up when you’ve been burgled ;) - a little inter-agency joke before anyone gets out of their armchair).
 
DaveD said:
The highlighted part of your post is only one of the four legal reasons you might have for leaving your home, the word document linked shows all four. For the avoidance of confusion it states:

You should only leave the house for one of four reasons:
  • shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible.
  • one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household.
  • any medical need, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person.
  • travelling to and from work, but only where this absolutely cannot be done from home.
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well yeah, i only highlighted that part cos that what @JasonW was talking about...
 
Sabre said:
Easy to say for those of you with other people at home to interact with, to talk to on a daily basis. So consider, before you get on your high-horse, when your only physical interaction is an automated air freshener, this gets much, much harder,
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I'm very often in the middle of no where on my own for a week or two with just the fish to talk... as my fishing takes me all over the place... I know what it's like... but then again I really enjoy my own company... I understand not everyone does... Lets hope a few weeks to a month or so and we'll start to get back to some kind of normality... Although life will be very different going forward for the foreseeable... Lets hope we all come out of it... Stay safe
 
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