Noco Genius 10 not working correctly

this is the BM2 voltage logger i used in the test:


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Dellmassive said:
ok. . . . its the end of another day at work and time to check-in on the charger. . .

its still in storage mode . .

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its still delivering around 3A that is running the load (pump)

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and the voltage has been constant . . . not cycling like the NOCO was doing.


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it seems that the Victron will run run like this for ever . . ?

so its time to upset the flow. . . at what point will it restart its cycle?

well lets see.

i decided to add some more load. . . i plugged in a dehumidifier in (on fan only mode).

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this took the load up to 7.5A - half the rated 15A of the charger . .

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but the charger sat there very happy . . . still in storage mode . . .

so now i threw the big guns at it . . . i switched on the compressor side of the dehumidifier on.. .


The inverter started beeping the overload warning . . . the compressor spooled up.


we were now pulling the full 15A from the charger . . .

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which now caused the battery voltage to drop slightly due to the current flow . . down to around 11.9v under load.

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at this point the charger moved over to bulk mode and started a new charge cycle . . . . back to 14.6v bulk charge.


you can see the change here . . .

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and here:

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so there we go . .

we have the data.

the Victron works much better at Charging + running Loads than the NOCO.


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Thanks for doing the testing, I've gone out and got myself the victron on order. Shame the noco didnt live up to recommendations but you live and learn.
 
Dellmassive said:
The BSC are the Blue Smart Charger range.

They are Ip65 and shower proof, they are bluetooth and come in 5A to 15A power range.

The IP22 range are ment for indoors, they have cooling fans and a slient night mode. They are bluetooth and the new V2 HW version cones with VE direct intergration..

They range up to 30A ish.

The 17A listed above is directed at the Marine boat market.... i havent got one of those....

But have got the other 2 types.
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I have the IP22 version, it’s under the drivers seat so IP22 is fine. The 15A version is passively cooled, so no fan to disturb you at night.
 
FYI . . .

Victron charger has moved back into Storage mode . . . . . . .



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so if you want a Charger/Power supply to keep your 12v system happy when on EHU + running loads - Fit Victron.

if you want a basic "Smart Battery Charger" to charge a battery get the NOCO . . . but look at upgrading to the Victron (just for the APP alone its worth it)

I still love the NOCO Chargers and Boost packs. . . . they work great.

just in this schenario. . . . charger/powersupply - the victron is better suited.
 
right . . this is the final update before moving the solar shed battery bank back over to solar.

0635am today.

storage mode and still running loads . . .

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inverter is happy and powering the pumps . .


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this is the voltage logs from the BM2 . . first day is a normal day with the victron solar mppt charge. .

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this was the NOCO 1st day . .

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second day . . .with the NOCO moving into fault mode . . . then the Victron charger being conected.

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next day on the Victron . . . with the attempt at getting it to restart the cycle. . . .


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and final day readout . . . victron in storage mode . . . a 13.0v flat line.

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this is the Victron APP showing the details of the charge status and history . . .


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Test End.
 
Dellmassive said:
right . . this is the final update before moving the solar shed battery bank back over to solar.

0635am today.

storage mode and still running loads . . .

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inverter is happy and powering the pumps . .


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this is the voltage logs from the BM2 . . first day is a normal day with the victron solar mppt charge. .

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this was the NOCO 1st day . .

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second day . . .with the NOCO moving into fault mode . . . then the Victron charger being conected.

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next day on the Victron . . . with the attempt at getting it to restart the cycle. . . .


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and final day readout . . . victron in storage mode . . . a 13.0v flat line.

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this is the Victron APP showing the details of the charge status and history . . .


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Test End.
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Above and beyond as ever @Dellmassive! The forum's love affair with team blue continues...
 
t0mb0 said:
Above and beyond as ever @Dellmassive! The forum's love affair with team blue continues...
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Thank you,

and yep The Love for team blue is strong . . . .

and for good reason.

best in class for solar, dc charging, dc-dc charging . . . . and dare i say it -Inverters? (due to the APP and constant FW updates)


This years T6F summer camp was fully Solar powered with the help of Team Blue . . . :mexican wave:


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Does anybody happen to know if the Victron quick connects are the same as the Ctek quick connections?

I’d like to upgrade, but can’t be bothered to swap my current Ctek connectors over if they are different to Victron’s.
 
Insert Coin said:
Does anybody happen to know if the Victron quick connects are the same as the Ctek quick connections?

I’d like to upgrade, but can’t be bothered to swap my current Ctek connectors over if they are different to Victron’s.
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No they all different . . . including the NOCO ones.
 
thats got me thinking. . .

i have a CTEK 5A smart charger in the solar shed . . . .

one more test . . . .

lets see how the ctek deals with the same situation.??


not really a like-4-like test as this is only a 5A charger . . . but lets see anyway.


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edit:

charger is happy that battery is full . .

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we can see the Ctek has the battery sitting slightly higher at 13.2v . .

pump (load started)

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now we wait . . .




tbc
 
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