New Van decisions......

fromt22t6

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Hi everyone,
New forum member here so go easy please....!

After 3 amazing weeks travelling here in Scotland in our 1979 T2, me and Mrs have finally accepted that we need something more modern/practical/safer for us and our 2 kids.

The California is nice but we are keen to create our own camper layout as we know what we do and dont need.

So im looking for a T6 and a converter. And I have tons of questions. Apologies in advance if any of these are repetitive/stupid.

1. I'll be heading to Busfest to try and meet as many converters as possible, but are there any other big (major) shows that i should get to?

2. Base Model - Panel or Kombi??? pros and cons of both?

3. should i order this or allow the converter to do it? im thinking they will be able to get a better price (but will that be passed on?) and also be more comfortable with the mixture of options/extras etc

4. T28/T30/T32 - Does it matter for a camper conversion?

5. 150BHP - is this the right engine - we will both want the auto box

6. 2wd/4wd - again is 4wd really needed?

7. Spec - Im thinking highline but what extras do you think you need for a conversion? what is a necessary and what is a luxury?

thanks in advance - i will probably have a lot more questions as this project develops....!
 
You could order a window van? Cheaper than kombi and you're not paying for seats you wouldn't use.
Order factory fitted single swivels. Means you don't lose headroom with after market swivels.
T30 is prob the best choice. That's the Cali base van.
150 dsg is good.
4wd is great but most of the time good tyres and 2wd is all you need. Depends on how much money you have!
 
Same comments as above really, a DSG 150 highline is a good base van T30.
If you want factory comfort dash I think you may have too go Kombi otherwise a window van and get you converter to add the comfort dash maybe. I didn't bother with 4WD as I didn't feel I would personally use the benefits of it, I got a full set of winter tires fitted to the standard 16 alloys
Can't help with the UK van shows sorry
 
Van I think a window van is another option in U.K., if it makes a lot of difference then just got with a PV then you get get the converter to add either sliding OEM or aftermarket sliders which ever you wants.
You will have lots of confusing days ahead with multiple options and manufactures for different things you want. This site is a great resourse and I found it a good help to point me in direction of what I wanted. Speak with a good recommended converter there are plenty recommendations on here
 
I got a basic panel van and had windows put in...its a high line so has aircon etc. You also need to think about SWB or LWB.
 
Hi everyone,
New forum member here so go easy please....!

After 3 amazing weeks travelling here in Scotland in our 1979 T2, me and Mrs have finally accepted that we need something more modern/practical/safer for us and our 2 kids.

The California is nice but we are keen to create our own camper layout as we know what we do and dont need.

So im looking for a T6 and a converter. And I have tons of questions. Apologies in advance if any of these are repetitive/stupid.

1. I'll be heading to Busfest to try and meet as many converters as possible, but are there any other big (major) shows that i should get to?

2. Base Model - Panel or Kombi??? pros and cons of both?

3. should i order this or allow the converter to do it? im thinking they will be able to get a better price (but will that be passed on?) and also be more comfortable with the mixture of options/extras etc

4. T28/T30/T32 - Does it matter for a camper conversion?

5. 150BHP - is this the right engine - we will both want the auto box

6. 2wd/4wd - again is 4wd really needed?

7. Spec - Im thinking highline but what extras do you think you need for a conversion? what is a necessary and what is a luxury?

thanks in advance - i will probably have a lot more questions as this project develops....!


Helloo and Welcome in.

There are a few converters Scotland offering Second hand T6's ready for conversion at discounted prices. I got a Second hand Van 150 T30 Highline with delivery mileage (360) for way less that the dealer could offer.

I'm in Livingston and help run a Scottish VW show https://www.facebook.com/Volksfling/ Would be good to see you there.

Kev

https://www.t6forum.com/media/sos.814/full
 
@fromt22t6,

With regards to the engine choice can I suggest you maybe better looking for a 204 over the 150 purely for the reliability side of things, especially if you are going to be converting and keeping it for the long term.

I run one of each and the 204 has been faultless but the 150 is proving to be the opposite for the small extra cost to buy and minimal difference in running costs (£180 per 10000 miles in fuel) I think it is a small price to pay for peace of mind.

Best of luck with the search ;)
 
Hello and welcome.

We opted for a T30 150DSG Highline Panel Van which was purchased through and converted by Hillside Leisure at Derby - we have been camping for years but this is our first camper - we absolutely love it and, so far at least, have not seen the problems a few members have reported with the 150DSG.

I see you are going to Busfest - there will be a group of us there (10+ vans), some with converted vans, so come and say hello, look over our vans and have a chat (especially with the guys that know a lot more than me!) to see if we can assist with your decision and advise on your liaison with the convertors there.
 
Hello and welcome.

We opted for a T30 150DSG Highline Panel Van which was purchased through and converted by Hillside Leisure at Derby - we have been camping for years but this is our first camper - we absolutely love it and, so far at least, have not seen the problems a few members have reported with the 150DSG.

I see you are going to Busfest - there will be a group of us there (10+ vans), some with converted vans, so come and say hello, look over our vans and have a chat (especially with the guys that know a lot more than me!) to see if we can assist with your decision and advise on your liaison with the convertors there.
Hi everyone,
New forum member here so go easy please....!

After 3 amazing weeks travelling here in Scotland in our 1979 T2, me and Mrs have finally accepted that we need something more modern/practical/safer for us and our 2 kids.

The California is nice but we are keen to create our own camper layout as we know what we do and dont need.

So im looking for a T6 and a converter. And I have tons of questions. Apologies in advance if any of these are repetitive/stupid.

1. I'll be heading to Busfest to try and meet as many converters as possible, but are there any other big (major) shows that i should get to?

2. Base Model - Panel or Kombi??? pros and cons of both?

3. should i order this or allow the converter to do it? im thinking they will be able to get a better price (but will that be passed on?) and also be more comfortable with the mixture of options/extras etc

4. T28/T30/T32 - Does it matter for a camper conversion?

5. 150BHP - is this the right engine - we will both want the auto box

6. 2wd/4wd - again is 4wd really needed?

7. Spec - Im thinking highline but what extras do you think you need for a conversion? what is a necessary and what is a luxury?

thanks in advance - i will probably have a lot more questions as this project develops....!

I have recently had the same decision to make and finally decided to proceed as follows: (following loads of questions and research)

SWB Highline Kombi T32 150 DSG with Tailgate. Why a Kombi? Well overall it seemed to be the best spec. I liked the fact that windows were fitted by VW instead of aftermarket ( yes, I heard about potential side window leaks, but there are risks too as to how well fitted aftermarket windows are). Also, something else that appealed is that on the Kombi Highline a rear wash/wipe is standard and it is extremely difficult (some say impossible) to include this as part of a conversion.
By going for a factory order I was able to choose the spec: LED headlights, Dust seals, Electric Latching, Electrically Folding Mirrors, Heated Seats, Split Rear Seat, Towbar Preparation, Comfort Dash with Cab Carpet, Colour Coded Dash Inserts, and Front and Rear Parking Sensors with Rear View Camera.

On delivery it is going for a full camper conversion with pop-top. I can't remember how many converters I visited,(fifteen I think!). I didn't just look at local ones! Quite a lot were all doing the same thing, some very well, some very dodgy. I wanted something a little bit different! One thing I would recommend is don't just make your decision based on what you see, ask a lot of questions about what you can't see, e.g. Don't base your decision on what you see at shows, you must visit the converters at their workshop to get a full picture. What sort sound proofing materials, sound deadening, insulation, workmanship and quality of finish of cabinets and the materials used. Pros and cons of tambour doors. What type of table and where is it stored? Look at how professional the workshop looks, especially if you are starting with an expensive brand new van! One thing I found is that all the best converters love to answer your questions and will give generously of their time: they will be as keen as you are and they want to exceed your expectations. Walk away if they seem to be dismissive of what you want done. You are paying the money so you are entitled to get what you want, especially after incorporating all the advice you are given. One thing I definitely didn't want was the type of cabinets that were installed in caravans in the 1950's, e.g. surface mounted doors with rubber edgeing.
Aim to maximise space within the van so ask questions about the pros and cons of underslung gas tanks, underslung water tanks and underslung leisure batteries. Do you want SWB or LWB (pros and cons for both). Pros and cons of different roofs. Curtains or blinds? Upholstery: fabric, leather or vinyl. Pros and cons of gas v diesel heating. Type of lighting and technology. Solar panel? What quality of carpet lining and flooring. Type of bed, fixed or slider (once again, pros and cons). Some converters use the genuine California bed. Decide where you are prepared to make compromises to suit your budget. Do you need an oven or just a hob? (I found out that most people who choose an oven never use it!). How good is the converter with electrics, TV's, head units etc. It may be best that you get certain jobs done by specialists of your own choosing. For example Absolut5 in Amesbury Wiltshre are excellent with Sound and Vision. Good converters won't mind you getting some work completed elsewhere.....it is your money, not theirs.
After my research I narrowed my choice down to Ecowagon in Cornwall, New Wave Conversions near Cardiff, Celtic Motorhomes, also near Cardiff, Uberbus in Poole, Exploria in Yorkshire, and Three Bridge in Buckinghamshire; all these convertors take a genuine pride in what they do and want to make you happy. There are, I am sure, other good converters. It's fair to say that no one converter will have exactly what you want, but it is their enthusiasm to get it as close as possible to your dream that is important, you will no doubt be spending a lot of money whatever budget you set yourself.
Of course all the above assumes you are not able to do any of the work yourself (like me!) . I have been extremely impressed and jealous with many of the DIY conversions I have seen. Most of all you have to be realistic about how much you can afford to spend. Some very basic conversions, well done, make a lot of people very happy.
When my conversion is finished and I am proud of the end result I will post a series of pictures. I will then tell you who I chose in the end!!
Hope this is helpful.
 
...Also, something else that appealed is that on the Kombi Highline a rear wash/wipe is standard and it is extremely difficult (some say impossible) to include this as part of a conversion.
Interesting, my panel van (factory order and delivered last October - some of your options such as LED, electric latching, etc. would have been on there if I'd known what I know now lol) came with rear wash wipe - thought it came as standard when you added tailgate with window to the Highline spec - might be something they have dropped from the spec this year? Either way, its there but I have not yet needed to use, even with doing some long motorway drives in pretty poor weather - could be that my bike rack is keeping the dirt away from it somehow??

I'm all for going down the bespoke route for the conversion, especially when people have the skills to do it themselves, but there are other benefits of going for a standard conversion from one of the larger outfits, e.g. back up of NCC accreditation, model already recognised on many insurers databases (e.g. mine is insured as Make: Hillside, Model: Birchover with no need to list everything in the conversion anywhere), you get to see exactly how things will look before you buy, etc.

To be fair, we were pretty naive when it came to ordering and didn't do anything like the level of research you guys are doing; we knew we wanted a full on camper but that was as far as it went, we weren't even set on a VW. We went to the NEC in show in February last year, liked what we saw from Wellhouse Leisure and Hillside Leisure - went along to a Hillside open day the following weekend to get the full factory tour and view vans at all stages of conversion, asked a load of daft questions, liked what we saw, liked the people we were speaking to, went back a week later to order! I definitely wouldn't recommend this approach to everyone but I think we struck lucky in that the quality of conversion and workmanship is excellent, and all of the components used are the ones people seem to have been subsequently recommending on here, e.g. Eberspacher heater, SCA 194 roof, RIB bed, SMEV appliances, Waeco fridge, etc. etc.. My van is a pretty standard Highline spec with, what some would consider, a rather bland conversion (we love it) but its a tried and tested format and everything works, incidentally, Hillside won 3 first place awards in 2017 Motorhome Design Awards, including the best £43k+ category for the Birchover - more luck than judgement on our part that we chose a good un!!
 
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