Hi there everyone
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Thank you both .
The only use would be road trip camping .
I saw a fully converted one yesterday with 28,000 on the clock for £36,500 but will need both strut bottom joints sorting soon .
In terms of loading theres only me and two 9 yr olds so we wouldnt need too much more camping gear{haha , probably} but I'd like to get bikes on the back .
We'd all fit up front so maybe the bikes could ride inside as I travel really light normally .
Thanks , it freaks me out a bit at the moment , after a B max !
Just get that saggy rear end sorted. CRS Performance worth a call
Is that down to the added weight over the rear from the conversion .
I do not recall the petrol version providing any performance advantage over the more powerful diesels. Petrols would use far more fuel than a diesel, however diesel is more expensive and with diesel one would need to stop and top up far less. petrol might deliver a quieter smoother experience. The biggest advantage that I see with petrol is maintaining and hanging on to a higher acceptability in regions that punish owners of older vehicles. Petrol seems to escape the chop for a longer period of time. So far as choosing a vehicle myself I would nearly always choose one of the turbo diesels except the versions known to be notorious. That would be the 204bjp twin turbo found in the T6. The more recent 199bhp Twin turbo found in the T6.1 but is also found in late T6 vehicles. It is so far proving to be a good engine with no bad trends to its name and as it has been around since sometime 2019 then it would be surprising if that would change for the worse because many higher mileage versions exist.
Thanks .
The general move away from diesel and the local penalties placed on them was one of my thoughts if I'm going to be using long term . Given the size of the investment , to me quite substantial , petrol seems more future proof .
You are probably correct if you look at the ages of vehicles that are a Euro 5 or 6 and then compare petrol to diesel. Petrol of an older date will attain a huger Euro rating before diesel. I think there is going to be a trend similar to Greater London with Bristol, Manchester, Edinburgh and all the other regions will following. All carving out firstly charge zones which is really to raise money, another form of TAX but it will be wrapped up with pollution, age of vehicle, fuel and so on to make it appear reasonable or the moral way to go. Thing is if everyone was battery driven they would find some other reason to prohibit or charge that also, just like they reinstated TAX on e vehicles. They just need the money for projects. It is the poorest in society who will be footing the bill. There will be still some way for the rich and ultra rich to ride or drive polluting gas guzzlers, they will just pay more or the charge will be paid by their business and offset against TAX in some other way. So long term petrol might be some way the only way to hang on to the same vehicle for longer for the rest of us possibly. My parent generation , those who loathed diesel and thought of them as Taxis or Workmen vehicles would be made up! I do think that the support given to diesels by Brown was right but would really like to know all of his thinking and reasoning on the subject. Some of it may have been to make travel more affordable for the many and that refinement would improve the breed which it did. The thing is I feel that we have had our hay days and they are going to be limited and reduced which will bring with it freedoms lost. I do not think that governments in future certainly in GB will be very well disposed towards freedom of movement for the masses. People will need to live in towns, cities and other large conurbations that is how it seems to me. Their may be a retreat by those that moved to the country recently back home. Although inflation figures have improved slightly the majority still feel suppressed by debt and as the country is a Nation of "Shop keepers" so no really quick upturn to change things for the better very soon or any day now, if ever at all. I believe that money is and will be diverted to defence and other things will have to do without and that some impropriety by governments will take place to pay for things that they consider important which may or may not suit our pallet. Already monies have been importuned to pay for a rail project by taking money from wales to pay for a line from Birmingham region into Wales but it is stopping well short of Wales which I would have thought must be bordering on an financial illegality. Monies intended for other things channelled into defence spending and so on. Perhaps their might be legal challenges but who knows. Probably Petrol might be safer and they still have not rebuilt a diesel refinery I think it has been cancelled which will mean that it will need to specially imported to cover demand or perhaps not to do so would bring in more costs to the customer because demand would be even higher with no way to resolve that. Petrol might be the safest bet long term.
I think it's a brave person who predicts more than a few years ahead with any certainty . The world appears to be in a state of upheaval and no one wants to stick their neck out for fear of it getting chopped and diesel seems a safe bet to marginalise .
As you say the wealthy are the last to feel any consequences .
I've just taken the van out for the first time and the consumption is borderline eye watering {I get 44 mpg out of the B Max hahahaha} so I'm not sure how clever safe I've played it . I enjoy driving the B Max anyway and the van is for a single specific purpose so I guess I'm ok with it as the car does all the other things I need to do really well and the van is going to be an absolute blast for me and the twins to see as much of this wonderful island this summer as we can . Their mum drove al around Europe to Morocco and back through Turkey in a 73 t2 {I think} so she'd approve so long as I don't do anything too stupid .
As far as any colour of politics goes all I can see is safe self interest . No one is going to do anything daring while the world is changing so much .
I get that out of my T6.1 diseasel.
Another thing that can be done to most petrol vehicles is too gas them That is have then converted to run on on LPG. So long as there is somewhere to stash the Gas tank and it could be put in the wheel well of a T6 though others will advise more specifically. Obviously their is the conversion cost but the more miles covered the cheaper it would seems and eventually pay for its self and then on its fuel at a very low cost. The main pitfall that I can see is the Channel Tunnel, I do not think that they accept LPG Fuel? I believe that ferry operators are OK but others would advise. I have once owned a Mercedes 4x4 run on LPG and it was very cheap and hardly noticed the very slight decrease in power. I would have had another but stuck with diesel but can say it was mostly switched automatically from memory with a manual choice also but was a long time ago and do not recall everything. Unfortunately mine had been installed in the boot area, a bit of a pain should have been underslung but it had a large boot so it was only a problem occasionally and had other vehicles anyway. I had a few places where I topped up but was not a member of anything and never used fuel cards or obtained a key so just stopped at a sign or known outlet but some are automatic pay I believe so do not need an attendant and have24 hour availability some at outlets might be at farm shops and one might obtain a key for those outside normal hours for self service in the early ours so on again others will have a better knowledge than myself. Worth considering their may be other advantages also.
That's the point of C I engines and super models though innit .
Long legs .
I'm not likely to get that out of a TSI any time soon am I ?
This had also occurred to me , and I've seen someone on here mention it too .
As you say space is the principle issue but if my eyes water to the point I can't drive ..........
It'll be on it's way over there soon . Kicked out of the Saggy Bottom Boys .
Thanks for the suggestion .
