Help - What does a VW T6.1 Kombi SWB weigh in Hundredweight / CWT ?

[bttb]

Hi - I'm hoping some of you peeps can help me out.

I'm keen to purchase a VW T6.1 Kombi SWB.

However, my house deeds has a "covenant" stating any commercial vehicle max weight of "1200 Hundredweight / CWT" and NO CAMPER Vans - unfortunately for me there ae a few neighbours who are sticklers for the rules

So before I buy my dream motor I really need to know what a VW T6.1 Kombi SWB weighs in cwt (hundredweight)

I have my fingers crossed some one can help

Thanks

Ricky

 

[Matt Evans]

unloaded around 40cwt

Hundredweight - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Pauly]

I thought those stupid rules forbidding everything were unenforceable ??

 

[bttb]

Unfortunately it can be enforced as it's within the deeds, albeit the builder Redrow would have to take legal action, but knowing my neighbours it would come to that

Matt's reply gives me some additional confidence.

 

[DaveD]

Unfortunately it can be enforced as it's within the deeds, albeit the builder Redrow would have to take legal action, but knowing my neighbours it would come to that

Matt's reply gives me some additional confidence.

Check carefully, I suspect the covenant might prohibit vehicles over 12 CWT (Hundredweight), the weight of a medium sized van in the 60's and 70's.
I think it unlikely to say 1200 CWT on the covenant, that would be forbidding any commercial vehicle over 60 tons.
The covenant is likely to forbid any T6, which in old money has a maximum gross weight of 55 CWT even for a T28.

Having said that, I agree with @Pauly, I don't know if such a covenant really can be enforced in today's world.

 

[S700]

Fully loaded T32 at 3200KG would be 63cwt

 

[S700]

Check carefully, I suspect the covenant might prohibit vehicles over 12 CWT (Hundredweight), the weight of a medium sized van in the 60's and 70's.
I think it unlikely to say 1200 CWT on the covenant, that would be forbidding any commercial vehicle over 60 tons.
The covenant is likely to forbid any T6, which in old money has a maximum gross weight of 55 CWT even for a T28.

Having said that, I agree with @Pauly, I don't know if such a covenant really can be enforced in today's world.

Looks like we posted at the same time.

And I came back to say 1200cwt would be upwards of 60tons too so may want to clarify whether its actually twelve 'hundredweight' and not twelve hundred 'hundredweight'.

 

[musttriharder]

I guess it might also depend upon the classification of camper van, based on some of the difficulties people have had recently getting a converted van re classified by the DVLA?

 

[Mike23864]

Most covenants of this type are put in place to stop ‘white vans’/caravans etc ruining the aesthetics of an estate and upsetting the neighbours by blocking the view. Do you have the opportunity to pre-emptively engage with the neighbours, perhaps with photos of what it might look like?

 

[DaveD]

Most covenants of this type are put in place to stop ‘white vans’/caravans etc ruining the aesthetics of an estate and upsetting the neighbours by blocking the view. Do you have the opportunity to pre-emptively engage with the neighbours, perhaps with photos of what it might look like?

Great idea, show them some photos of a nice T6 that you'd like, and seek their approval.
And while you're there you can show them a photo of the other vehicle you will put on the drive if they don't want you to have a T6, a vehicle not forbidden by the covenant!

 

[VanDamMan]

Camper van definition.....A camper van is a van which is equipped with beds and cookingequipment so that you can live, cook, and sleep in it.

So I’d assume by using a kombi van with a bed ...it’s a day van.....just don’t cook inside... any law has loopholes

ps there’s no law to stop outdoor BBQ’s

 

[bttb]

Apologies - I have re-read my deeds it states "No commercial vehicle the overall carrying capacity of which exceeds twelve hundredweight shall be parked overnight or permitted or suffered to be parked overnight on the plot or on the road adjacent to said property or any other roads on the estate."


As a thought - Is there an option to get a T6.1 Kombi classified upon purchase as M1 rather than N1 ? as this would get around the commercial vehicle wording ??

I'll keep my fingers crossed for your replies

 

[DXX]

I would imagine that Redrow put the covenant on the plots to make it easier to sell houses. Once those house are sold I doubt they give a damn, money’s in the bank.
The judicial court backlog is several years after Covid, the van will probably be in the crusher before you get a summons.

 

[Mike23864]

Likewise the neighbours won’t care what it says on the logbook. If it’s an eyesore whatever it says you will get grief

 

[Scruffy]

Why not look at a Shuttle, which would come with a M1 classification.

 

[dubber36]

I'm guessing he wants a Kombi.

Are there no self employed trades people living locally? I can't imagine that Jimmy Sparks the electrician has given parking his sign written Vivaro outside his house a second thought if he has similar "constraints"

 

[Andyr12]

I feel your pain @bttb as neighbours can be awkward. When I moved in to a previous house in Nottingham the neighbour suggested were I park the van as he wanted to be able to see across my drive to the pond!

I kept it amicable but years later on fitting a new fence he was out with the tape measure only to find he was encroaching by nearly a metre and once put right his classic car turning circle could’nt negotiate the drive . Karma

 

[DXX]

When it’s legal have a party and make friends, so much easier.

 

[bttb]

Thanks for all your replies.

Mind is now 99% set on Kombi - the other 1% is thinking Caravelle and taking the seats out full time

As and when I join the Transporter Movement I will let you know

Thanks Again for your advice and support

 

[Village]

Worth having a closer look at the wording of restrictive covenants, to check which land has the benefit of them (i.e which property owners can enforce), and to make sure they were intended to run with the land (i.e. pass to successive owners). They may just be totally unenforceable, but they could well still bite. Quite a complex area

Edit: also worth checking to see if there is a consent mechanism