Golf Heated Seats w/ OEM Panel

rtg1200

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Morning, I've fitted some Golf R heated seats in my T6 , but for a complete job would really like the heated elements to work, even better if it could look oem.

This is the type of heater panel i have now, but without the rear window button as its a panel van.
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This is the type of panel i would hope to use

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and the rear of each panel appears to be the same connection socket wise

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So with that in mind would it be unreasonable to think i could purchase and fit the panel with heated seat buttons, and then have made and fit a wiring loom from the golf seats heated element sockets to where ever it is they go on a van with heated seats?

Has anyone fitted oem T6 heated seats and had to do the same sort of thing?

Any help or advice appreciated

Thanks

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It's definitely possible. You'd probably need a couple of other modules too. Hazzydayz offer it as a retrofit for around a grand :eek:
 

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It's definitely possible. You'd probably need a couple of other modules too. Hazzydayz offer it as a retrofit for around a grand :eek:
Damn, bit more than i was hoping. Do you know what other modules what it take?
 

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Have a read through this thread.


In the wiring diagrams it's marked as module J774

Here's the link to the KUFATEC loom. They might give you info on any other modules required.

 

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the module is just a glorified relay, it takes the signal from the dash and deals with the power going to the seats, i have one here someone i will post a pic and part number in a bit
 

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the module is just a glorified relay, it takes the signal from the dash and deals with the power going to the seats, i have one here someone i will post a pic and part number in a bit

thanks gents will do more reading
 

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Morning, I've fitted some Golf R heated seats in my T6 , but for a complete job would really like the heated elements to work, even better if it could look oem.

This is the type of heater panel i have now, but without the rear window button as its a panel van.
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This is the type of panel i would hope to use

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and the rear of each panel appears to be the same connection socket wise

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So with that in mind would it be unreasonable to think i could purchase and fit the panel with heated seat buttons, and then have made and fit a wiring loom from the golf seats heated element sockets to where ever it is they go on a van with heated seats?

Has anyone fitted oem T6 heated seats and had to do the same sort of thing?

Any help or advice appreciated

Thanks

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I tried a Passat unit and it didn’t work with the van, whereas @Littleblackflash tried a Golf unit and it did. Might have been the age of the unit that affected it, or because the Passat platform is more different than the Golf - I don’t know.
 

rtg1200

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Just spotted on kufatec website the correct cable just one unit and one cable set so thats ok, but also looked for the same cable for an mqb golf and it appeaes to be a very different set up. Emailed kufatec to see if it can be done



Update

Kufatec emailed back and said it cant be done, must be a totally different loom set up
 
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Littleblackflash

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I'm following this with interest. I've upgraded by heater controls to have the rear heated screen but I've also some heated seat to add now.

You need to break the problem down to 2 parts. First you need to tell the BCM to turn the heated seats on, then secondly you need some wiring from the BCM to power the seat.

I think the first part is just swapping over the heat controls to the correct part. It sends a CAN (or LIN) message to the BCM so no additional wiring should be needed. Using VCDS you should be able to see if the seat heating is active or not. This will then turn on an output in the BCM.
Next step is to power the seats through a seat heating module. As Pauly says, its just a relay with a cutout for over temp. I've not look at this side of the retrofit in too much detail yet. It should be a link to the BCM, a power feed and an output to the seat.
 

rtg1200

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I'm following this with interest. I've upgraded by heater controls to have the rear heated screen but I've also some heated seat to add now.

You need to break the problem down to 2 parts. First you need to tell the BCM to turn the heated seats on, then secondly you need some wiring from the BCM to power the seat.

I think the first part is just swapping over the heat controls to the correct part. It sends a CAN (or LIN) message to the BCM so no additional wiring should be needed. Using VCDS you should be able to see if the seat heating is active or not. This will then turn on an output in the BCM.
Next step is to power the seats through a seat heating module. As Pauly says, its just a relay with a cutout for over temp. I've not look at this side of the retrofit in too much detail yet. It should be a link to the BCM, a power feed and an output to the seat.

Agreed, the heat control panel and relay module seem doable but looking at the kufatec wiring looms though the golf mk7 set up and sockets is different to the transporters. It seems reasonable to me someone could make a loom to go from the relay to the golf seat from scratch using proper parts, but I havent a clue who to be asking for something like that. Still seems possible but kufatec werent interested.

Maybe the sockets on the golf seats could be converted to transporter sockets?
 

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The parts on the seats are the simple bit. It's just a heater element and sometimes a NTC heat contoller. I wouldn't be supprised if the connector to the relay module to the seat has the same pins, but a different connector housing. It could be a simple re-pinning job.
I'll take a look sometime over the weekend. It may inspire me to start mine.
 

rtg1200

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The parts on the seats are the simple bit. It's just a heater element and sometimes a NTC heat contoller. I wouldn't be supprised if the connector to the relay module to the seat has the same pins, but a different connector housing. It could be a simple re-pinning job.
I'll take a look sometime over the weekend. It may inspire me to start mine.
That would be ideal. Could do with some pics and diagrams of the t6 heated seats and compare them to the golf sockets ill take some pics when next out at the van
 

matthew2456

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I did the same OEM setup but with with A5 electric and heated seats.

I used the Kufatec T6 heated seat loom, a new control panel as above and a relay from ebay.

The audi seats had a different plug to the T6, as I expect the golf ones will, so I cut the plugs off and joined using some other suitable connectors.

The wires are pretty straight forward as previously stated, a pair for the heating element and a pair for the temp sensor. I can dig out the pin out for the seat plugs if you need them.
 

rtg1200

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I did the same OEM setup but with with A5 electric and heated seats.

I used the Kufatec T6 heated seat loom, a new control panel as above and a relay from ebay.

The audi seats had a different plug to the T6, as I expect the golf ones will, so I cut the plugs off and joined using some other suitable connectors.

The wires are pretty straight forward as previously stated, a pair for the heating element and a pair for the temp sensor. I can dig out the pin out for the seat plugs if you need them.
thatd be very helpful thanks, good to know its been done. without original plugs sounds good. did you use a transporter relay or from a golf or something else?
 

matthew2456

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The relay can be from anything as long as it has the correct part number, don't worry about the suffix, I used a "B" - £15ish from ebay

T6 heated plug -> A5 Heated Seat Plug
Pin 2 Pin 2 (Black /white)
Pin 3 Pin 3 (Brown) & Pin 1 (Brown / green)
Pin 4 Pin 4 (Red/White)

Pin 3 is ground, whichever is the remaining thick cable is the element, thin cable the sense.
 

rtg1200

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The relay can be from anything as long as it has the correct part number, don't worry about the suffix, I used a "B" - £15ish from ebay

T6 heated plug -> A5 Heated Seat Plug
Pin 2 Pin 2 (Black /white)
Pin 3 Pin 3 (Brown) & Pin 1 (Brown / green)
Pin 4 Pin 4 (Red/White)

Pin 3 is ground, whichever is the remaining thick cable is the element, thin cable the sense.
cheers, il get some bits ordered. does the relay replace another type of relay that will already be in the van or will i need another cable from the heater controls to the new relay?
 
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