Fed up with 4 motion eating tyres

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Any one else fed up with Bilstein set up and 20 inch wheels eating tyres and also having no spare wheel to fit when got a puncture . Thinking of taking it all of and going sportive set up with wheel and shocks
Any thoughts ?
 
KONI, slight lift 18" Wheels decent tyres Michelin CC3 have the tracking checked. If you have a larger than standard wheel tyre combination put a spare on your rear door/s wit either a dedicated carrier or a converted bicycle carrier. 4Motion should not be eating your tyres.
 
Any one else fed up with Bilstein set up and 20 inch wheels eating tyres and also having no spare wheel to fit when got a puncture . Thinking of taking it all of and going sportive set up with wheel and shocks
Any thoughts ?

Although I cant really help you, it's not the 4Motion eating your tyres.
I have a 4Motion T6 and tyre wear is fairly minimal all round, I can get 20K easily from a set of tyres and I change mine far earlier than required.
Have the tracking done.
 
Likewise, I run 17s tuff steels with Michelin lattidue cross (oversize tyres) and wear is great! I always find with Michelin I get at least 20k out of them and always even.
Get tracking and balancing done.
I do only have a standard steel as a spare, so I’m buggered if I get a slash or large puncture!
 
I remember reading about @Tourershine using certain geometry settings to minimise uneven wear on the rears when super low. This was posted a few years ago so you may need to trawl the archives!
 
Do you have any pictures of the van? Is there alot of camber on the rears from sitting too low?
 
Get full alignment done using Hunter or similar. Correct geometry will alleviate any adverse wear on a 2wd / 4wd. From my own experience 4wd is infinitely better on tyre wear than FWD
 
Get full alignment done using Hunter or similar. Correct geometry will alleviate any adverse wear on a 2wd / 4wd. From my own experience 4wd is infinitely better on tyre wear than FWD
I would have thought that the case but as this is my first vehicle of its type and have no intension of ever purchasing the 2wd version it would be pure speculation on my part.
 
I would have thought that the case but as this is my first vehicle of its type and have no intension of ever purchasing the 2wd version it would be pure speculation on my part.
You will be pleasantly surprised when you find out how a minor adjustment can make such a difference to tyre wear . Good luck
 
You will be pleasantly surprised when you find out how a minor adjustment can make such a difference to tyre wear . Good luck
I agree went through a set of Brighstone winter tyres a few years ago when the vehicle was new believing that the factory set up should be right on. Trust no one especially the VW manufacturers, big mistake. Had the properly aligned and a huge difference. I never normally take things anywhere near to the line normally replace tyres well before needed but one does notice ware when driving and being a fuddy duddy I prefer newer tyres especially in wet or snow conditions and no question off road.
 
I agree went through a set of Brighstone winter tyres a few years ago when the vehicle was new believing that the factory set up should be right on. Trust no one especially the VW manufacturers, big mistake. Had the properly aligned and a huge difference. I never normally take things anywhere near to the line normally replace tyres well before needed but one does notice ware when driving and being a fuddy duddy I prefer newer tyres especially in wet or snow conditions and no question off road.
Agree. I’ve always run winters not for the UK but doing many trips to Germany where it’s mandatory in certain months. I set up track cars and I know that even the manufacturers geometry can be refined.

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Yeah,
Got 16k out of a set of tyres, lowered KV V2 , alignment carried out almost yearly.

The previous set of tyres experienced more wear on the front outer and rear inners and were bald towards the end and had to be replaced with a reasonable bit of meat above the minimum wear markers remaining in the centre.

I don't run particularly low at all but the rear suspension is a bit agricultural and cannot be adjusted enough if you run low, hence I suppose the existence of power flex adjustable bushings or the alternative of chewing through tyres.

I'm a bit disappointed with the uneven wear that I experienced bearing in mind the regular alignment ( undertaken by a forum sponsor) good quality tyres and ultimately suspect that 20s, running a low ish stance isn't perhaps the best choice for the suspension component configuration.
I'm guessing 19's drive better and certainly have a greater range of tyre choices than the 20's but obviously don't look quite as good to the eye.
So 20's it is with a more wear than others experience, the price of doing business I suppose.

For the spare tyre issue, you can get a steel of some sort and find a tyre for it to be pretty close to the 20s set up, I think my spare is about 1% difference in rolling circumference. Thankfully not needed as yet.
 
Agree. I’ve always run winters not for the UK but doing many trips to Germany where it’s mandatory in certain months. I set up track cars and I know that even the manufacturers geometry can be refined.

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Can use 3Peaks M&S AS All Season or 3 Peaks M&S AT All Terrain in Europe also.
Years ago different vehicle I followed advice from someone that claimed a certain setting had advantages and that turned out to be for the rubber company. I doubt that he had your acumen or attention to detail though. So what are your findings in terms of grip and handling for 4Motion vehicles and do those settings differ to maximising mileage and how different to manufacturers recommendation?
 
Yeah,
Got 16k out of a set of tyres, lowered KV V2 , alignment carried out almost yearly.

The previous set of tyres experienced more wear on the front outer and rear inners and were bald towards the end and had to be replaced with a reasonable bit of meat above the minimum wear markers remaining in the centre.

I don't run particularly low at all but the rear suspension is a bit agricultural and cannot be adjusted enough if you run low, hence I suppose the existence of power flex adjustable bushings or the alternative of chewing through tyres.

I'm a bit disappointed with the uneven wear that I experienced bearing in mind the regular alignment ( undertaken by a forum sponsor) good quality tyres and ultimately suspect that 20s, running a low ish stance isn't perhaps the best choice for the suspension component configuration.
I'm guessing 19's drive better and certainly have a greater range of tyre choices than the 20's but obviously don't look quite as good to the eye.
So 20's it is with a more wear than others experience, the price of doing business I suppose.

For the spare tyre issue, you can get a steel of some sort and find a tyre for it to be pretty close to the 20s set up, I think my spare is about 1% difference in rolling circumference. Thankfully not needed as yet.
What will fit in the spare wheel carrier? That is the question...
 
Any one else fed up with Bilstein set up and 20 inch wheels eating tyres and also having no spare wheel to fit when got a puncture . Thinking of taking it all of and going sportive set up with wheel and shocks
Any thoughts ?

Interested in this one (as I have a fairly new lowered 4mo on Bilsteins) what mileage are you getting from your tyres?
 
You might find a tyre to fit your existing spare rim.
There is a tyre size comparison site out there somewhere online that I used but can't remember the exact details
 
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