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A Pillar Trims

Discussion in 'Interiors, Seating, Lining' started by andys, 16 Jun 2018.

  1. andys

    andys Senior Member VIP Member T6 Legend

    Anyone know if the T5.1 and T6 A pillar trims are interchangeable? I know I'd have to transfer tweeter grilles if I wanted to use aT5.1 trims but that wouldn't be a problem. I see that accessory companies sell grab handle kits that fit both so I'm assuming those bolt holes are the same but I'm not sure of the rest.
    Did VW change the length/rake of the actual A pillars or was it just a facelift and new bonnet?
     
  2. Deaky

    Deaky Senior Member VCDS User VIP Member T6 Guru

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    They’re completely different down the bottom where they connect to the dash.
     
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  3. andys

    andys Senior Member VIP Member T6 Legend

    Ah bu&&er I never thought of that. Could kick myself as I'd had a pair spare in the garage for 3yrs but gave them away as I assumed I'd never need them but I could have cut them around to see if I could have adapted them then recovered.
     
  4. andys

    andys Senior Member VIP Member T6 Legend

    Right I've now got the T5 Remifront blinds and also a spare pair of T6 A pillar covers to see if I can marry them up and this is how they look next to each other.

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    They're actually pretty much the same length at the front, but as @Deaky said they're completely different at the bottom with the T6 covers being much more steeply curved at the bottom and coming well down at the back, so the T6 dash must come substantially lower at that point. They're also a bit more curved as they go up, but that's not too much of an issue.

    Here they are with the T5 cover overlaid on the T6, you can see how much more material the latter has.

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    The T6 also has the tweeter grille missing from the T5, and the T5 the rear air vent missing from the T6.
    So the options as I see it are

    1) Remove the blind mechanism from the T5 cover and cut a slot in the T6 one to accomodate it. This would be the most technically difficult but likely to give the most OEM result.

    2 Trim and shape the T5 cover, cut and transfer tweeter grille, cover the air vent, cut off and epoxy the T6 lower section onto the T5 pillar, and recover the whole thing to hide the Frankenstein appearance. This sounds more effort but would be more forgiving of small mistakes whereas option 1 is a one-chance only deal

    I'll post up pics of however I attempt it but any comments welcome.
     
  5. andys

    andys Senior Member VIP Member T6 Legend

    First step in this project today was to whip the existing trim off, test fit the T5 panel and see just what the differences are and what needs to be done to make it fit.
    Pretty happy with the result, it's going to take much less work than I thought, the trim lines up on the sides fine and just needed a little nibble off the top to make that fit perfectly (which I also seem to remember having to do when fitting these to an actual T5!). So the main difference is the gap at the bottom as below

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    In addition, the holes for the A pillar grab handles needed dremelling slightly (see difference below)

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    This is needed to accomodate the trim that fits into that hole, but it's a separate piece, detachable from the base of the handle which leads me to wonder if the actual handles are the same, but the different collar trim was needed to fit the slightly different contour of the T6 trim. In any case I'm not going to the expense of T5 handles, in fact I'm not sure I'll even have grab handles at all, I've never used them.

    As a result of the trial fit, I've realised what a waste of perfectly good T6 trims it would be if I just cut a bit off the bottom, so after making a paper template of the gap, I've decided to build that up in fibreglass instead. I was going to have to re-cover anyway. I will have to fill the air inlet hole (or fit dummy T5 grilles) but I also spent some time experimenting with tweeter position and have decided not to cut in a T6 position tweeter grille, as the soundstaging and treble sound were much improved by moving both further up the A pillars and facing the driver. So I'll probably cut those in either near the top or in the top hole for the grab handle. There's plenty of room behind the trim in all the possible positions so I won't need to make a protruding pod.

    Here's the only extra bit that will need building in, next stop to get some fibreglass kit and see what I can do with that.

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    By the way, anyone got black A pillar trims? Mulling that over when I come to decide on the covering.
     
  6. StudleyGlass

    StudleyGlass 150 DSG Kombi Highline VCDS User Moderator VIP Member T6 Legend

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    I have mine covered in black alcantara, just as a guide

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  7. andys

    andys Senior Member VIP Member T6 Legend

    Thanks, I like how that looks :thumbsup: Funnily enough I'd just been thinking about maybe adding an additional midrange speaker too. And no grab handles either, I think you've already done everything that was going through my mind!
     
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  8. Fish

    Fish Senior Member VIP Member T6 Legend

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